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TUI Summer Contract

Old 19th May 2022, 08:36
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Originally Posted by ICEHOUSES View Post
What a joke this industry has become.
By your post history, you're very anti-airlines, and anti-aviation in general. In 2 pages I could be bothered to go back and look at, there wasn't a single positive post, only negative. I certainly hope you find what makes you happy one day. Thoughts and prayers!
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Old 19th May 2022, 11:08
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Originally Posted by Whalejet View Post
By your post history, you're very anti-airlines, and anti-aviation in general. In 2 pages I could be bothered to go back and look at, there wasn't a single positive post, only negative. I certainly hope you find what makes you happy one day. Thoughts and prayers!

Are you an employed pilot?
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Old 19th May 2022, 11:10
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Originally Posted by ICEHOUSES View Post
What a joke this industry has become.

A very depressing truth.
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Old 19th May 2022, 11:48
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I always admired TUI but yes the £7k for summer contract stinks.

I wonder if those that didnít start had offers from elsewhere.

A mate of mine started with Jet2 couple months back and was given very short notice (4 weeks). He said some on his course received less than 2 weeks notice.

I have noticed on many people getting jobs now so things definitely picking up.

I think TUI played the wrong hand this time.
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Old 19th May 2022, 17:32
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I thought the contract was a terrible offer, but think it's a bit silly to accept the job and then not turn up.

Burning bridges for no reason or reward IMO


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Old 19th May 2022, 18:19
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Originally Posted by SpamCanDriver View Post
I thought the contract was a terrible offer, but think it's a bit silly to accept the job and then not turn up.

Burning bridges for no reason or reward IMO
I thought it was a bad offer in 2014 which is why I turned it down then. Every man and his donkey has seen an extreme experienced pilot shortage coming on the way out of Covid. Big bulge of retirements coupled with enough people leaving the industry altogether and still offering this low ball offer shows an extreme arrogance of the bean counters. I bet the pilot recruiters were banging their heads against the desk saying ďplease donít make us make this offerĒ.

We should be in the golden era of tís and cís negotiations. But weíre not but thatís a whole different rant.
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Old 20th May 2022, 09:40
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We should be in the golden era of tís and cís negotiations.
They are over in the USA. Europe and the UK from an employer perspective are being too arrogant,
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Old 21st May 2022, 12:49
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Originally Posted by OutsideCAS View Post
They are over in the USA. Europe and the UK from an employer perspective are being too arrogant,
A combination of very strong Unions & and the 1500hr rule, meaning less people straight out of fkting school able to sell their granny. To get on the first rung of the ladder maybe?
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Old 21st May 2022, 20:00
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Comms from TUI management point to some significant upheaval for the winter 23/24 season. The Sunwing arrangement ends summer 2023 and they then have a fleet which is too big for the low season.

There are better gigs out there than poorly paid summer contracts where the pilot pays the training costs. My own outfit still pays for the heavy jet type rating with the traditional bond arrangement that used to exist years ago. Full time employment as well.
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Old 21st May 2022, 20:42
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Originally Posted by Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP View Post
Comms from TUI management point to some significant upheaval for the winter 23/24 season. The Sunwing arrangement ends summer 2023 and they then have a fleet which is too big for the low season.

There are better gigs out there than poorly paid summer contracts where the pilot pays the training costs. My own outfit still pays for the heavy jet type rating with the traditional bond arrangement that used to exist years ago. Full time employment as well.
Yes, I saw the Sunwing videos, and whilst it seems bad, they seem confident they can "fix it" time will only tell. I can't say I know any thing more about this than the rest of us.

People on the starting courses for this summer season contract appear to have been offered permanent contracts on "PPY50".
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Old 21st May 2022, 21:44
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Originally Posted by Whalejet View Post
Yes, I saw the Sunwing videos, and whilst it seems bad, they seem confident they can "fix it" time will only tell. I can't say I know any thing more about this than the rest of us.

People on the starting courses for this summer season contract appear to have been offered permanent contracts on "PPY50".
Whats PPY50? 50% contract?

Itís still not ideal. People trying to get mortgages etc. Laughed out of the bank with that contract.
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Old 21st May 2022, 21:45
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It's 100% working in summer, and two weeks on/two weeks off in winter.
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Old 31st May 2022, 13:02
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Are TUI now paying the price for their ďinterestingĒ recruitment policy? Iím aware we have a perfect storm with half term etc and itís a cabin crew shortage as well, but they (and EZY) seem to have been particularly hard hit. Will this force a review by their HR department?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61638567

https://www.theguardian.com/business...m-travel-chaos



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Old 31st May 2022, 13:22
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Originally Posted by annakm View Post
Will this force a review by their HR department?
Simply, no.
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Old 1st Jun 2022, 06:19
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Originally Posted by annakm View Post
Are TUI now paying the price for their “interesting” recruitment policy? I’m aware we have a perfect storm with half term etc and it’s a cabin crew shortage as well, but they (and EZY) seem to have been particularly hard hit. Will this force a review by their HR department?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61638567

https://www.theguardian.com/business...m-travel-chaos
Correct me if I'm wrong, but TUI UK and TUI belgium/netherland are two different airlines and has different recruitment policy. Only TUIfly offers the summer contract with the 7K bond.
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Old 1st Jun 2022, 06:36
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Originally Posted by Whalejet View Post
People on the starting courses for this summer season contract appear to have been offered permanent contracts on "PPY50".
Remember the days when PPY50 for 5 years was standard at joiningÖ..
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