Norse Atlantic
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From: Europe
Norwegian as a whole had B787 lithium battery problems, B737 max grounding followed by a pandemic, how do you survive all 3.
They cut the arm of the long haul yet retained the leases, then leased back the same aircraft at 50% of cost.
NAS is backed by the Norwegian govt, as well Norse is not Norwegian yet run by exactly the same people, so backed by the same people, the same people who won’t want another failure for the same business model.
The share price was a reaction and despite being a “new” company (which they aren’t) still has years of background experience on what not to do and how to progress forward slowly slowly.
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From: newbury
The lithium battery thing never really affected Norwegian 787 deliveries - the cure was a new drain in case the battery kicked off .
It's true NAS had a lot of bad luck but I also feel the covid timing was quite a useable excuse to bin the whole LH thing -It made money on a handful of routes but they were very seasonal as Norse knows as well , I hope they are doing it better and more profitably
It's true NAS had a lot of bad luck but I also feel the covid timing was quite a useable excuse to bin the whole LH thing -It made money on a handful of routes but they were very seasonal as Norse knows as well , I hope they are doing it better and more profitably
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From: HMP Slade
yes but it also goes on to explain that 3rd quarterly results were in profit, share prices of some of the most robust airlines (if there is such a thing) fluctuated massively over the years.
Norwegian as a whole had B787 lithium battery problems, B737 max grounding followed by a pandemic, how do you survive all 3.
They cut the arm of the long haul yet retained the leases, then leased back the same aircraft at 50% of cost.
NAS is backed by the Norwegian govt, as well Norse is not Norwegian yet run by exactly the same people, so backed by the same people, the same people who won’t want another failure for the same business model.
The share price was a reaction and despite being a “new” company (which they aren’t) still has years of background experience on what not to do and how to progress forward slowly slowly.
Norwegian as a whole had B787 lithium battery problems, B737 max grounding followed by a pandemic, how do you survive all 3.
They cut the arm of the long haul yet retained the leases, then leased back the same aircraft at 50% of cost.
NAS is backed by the Norwegian govt, as well Norse is not Norwegian yet run by exactly the same people, so backed by the same people, the same people who won’t want another failure for the same business model.
The share price was a reaction and despite being a “new” company (which they aren’t) still has years of background experience on what not to do and how to progress forward slowly slowly.
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From: Grrrr
Just for clarity, this is the 7th. time in their 18 months of existence that they have taken cash injections, including "repair emissions".
Norse-gründeren henter penger for syvende gang: – Vi mener det er tilstrekkelig | DN
Norse-gründeren henter penger for syvende gang: – Vi mener det er tilstrekkelig | DN
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From: newbury
Just for clarity, this is the 7th. time in their 18 months of existence that they have taken cash injections, including "repair emissions".
Norse-gründeren henter penger for syvende gang: – Vi mener det er tilstrekkelig | DN
Norse-gründeren henter penger for syvende gang: – Vi mener det er tilstrekkelig | DN
I hope it works out for them , there's a lot of great former colleagues there
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From: UK
the assessment comprised of an interview, a simulator assessment on the B737 and a time sensitive group assessment.
You will also have to do a behavioral assessment online. (usually done before the assessment day if time permits)
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From: Austria
I replied earlier in the thread, but this is basically what the assessment day will entail:
the assessment comprised of an interview, a simulator assessment on the B737 and a time sensitive group assessment.
You will also have to do a behavioral assessment online. (usually done before the assessment day if time permits)
the assessment comprised of an interview, a simulator assessment on the B737 and a time sensitive group assessment.
You will also have to do a behavioral assessment online. (usually done before the assessment day if time permits)
Thanks
any info on what the interview is about?
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From: Europe
Am a Norseman. So, you will probably hear from Norse shortly, recruitment will start imminently for next year. FO's and possibly a sprinkling DECs.
2 AOCs, UK and Norway. Bases LGW,CDG and Oslo.
UK will prob have most expansion, although nothing is firm yet, all leased out aircraft coming back, is the plan. (15 total)
During the ramp up, it has been full on, for most of us. Rosters are tight with the ramp up, and training backlog, although we are guaranteed 11 days off. It is a commuting friendly airline, though rosters do need to improve to facilitate this fully. Trainers are flat out, and not happy, but that is standard at a lot of airlines.
Overtime is paid >70 hrs. and most are doing 85+ at the moment, which should ease off in the winter.
Quite a lot of commands this winter, internally. Which is great.
Typically 3-4 trips per month, but can be 5, depends east or west coast US trips ya get. West coast is 3 crew, and MIA/FLL, as well. We hoping to get MCO to 3 crew as well. But what other companies do, on that route may well dictate what happens. W patterns, are a thing at Norse. You can opt in or out. You go on a trip, back to LGW, hotel, and out next day on another trip. Productive 5-6 days. Some like, some don't.... Standbys, in theory 90 mins from call out. Never been called out yet, it does happen. Next CBA union, hoping to change this. Also reserves, where they have to give you 10 or 20 hours notice of a duty change.
BALPA council, and Norse have a great working relationship, its not all perfect, but to be honest, in all my time, is pretty good, and collaborative. Norway unions, I can't comment on. But seems ok, from what I know. A new CBA is being worked on, and hopefully will be ready by years end. Lots of improvements sought.
Load factors have been great this summer, on routes. Company in profit. As with most new companies, some teething issues, but the motivation is to get things right.
PM me if you have questions.
EGGW.
2 AOCs, UK and Norway. Bases LGW,CDG and Oslo.
UK will prob have most expansion, although nothing is firm yet, all leased out aircraft coming back, is the plan. (15 total)
During the ramp up, it has been full on, for most of us. Rosters are tight with the ramp up, and training backlog, although we are guaranteed 11 days off. It is a commuting friendly airline, though rosters do need to improve to facilitate this fully. Trainers are flat out, and not happy, but that is standard at a lot of airlines.
Overtime is paid >70 hrs. and most are doing 85+ at the moment, which should ease off in the winter.
Quite a lot of commands this winter, internally. Which is great.
Typically 3-4 trips per month, but can be 5, depends east or west coast US trips ya get. West coast is 3 crew, and MIA/FLL, as well. We hoping to get MCO to 3 crew as well. But what other companies do, on that route may well dictate what happens. W patterns, are a thing at Norse. You can opt in or out. You go on a trip, back to LGW, hotel, and out next day on another trip. Productive 5-6 days. Some like, some don't.... Standbys, in theory 90 mins from call out. Never been called out yet, it does happen. Next CBA union, hoping to change this. Also reserves, where they have to give you 10 or 20 hours notice of a duty change.
BALPA council, and Norse have a great working relationship, its not all perfect, but to be honest, in all my time, is pretty good, and collaborative. Norway unions, I can't comment on. But seems ok, from what I know. A new CBA is being worked on, and hopefully will be ready by years end. Lots of improvements sought.
Load factors have been great this summer, on routes. Company in profit. As with most new companies, some teething issues, but the motivation is to get things right.
PM me if you have questions.
EGGW.
What is the benefit for W patterns? Is it because you’re more likely to get above 70 hours and so paid more?
or is this a benefit for commuters?
any word on commuting roster? Is this expected to be a decrease in salary for a commuting roster?
in winter months are you still getting above 70 hours or living on basic?
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From: ZKPY
What is the benefit for W patterns? Is it because you’re more likely to get above 70 hours and so paid more?
or is this a benefit for commuters?
any word on commuting roster? Is this expected to be a decrease in salary for a commuting roster?
in winter months are you still getting above 70 hours or living on basic?
or is this a benefit for commuters?
any word on commuting roster? Is this expected to be a decrease in salary for a commuting roster?
in winter months are you still getting above 70 hours or living on basic?
Most people like W patterns because it's easier to commute that way or because people have no life back home or both.
The roster is during the summer so to say filled with usually two W patters and one forth and back.
Hours in summer 80+
Hours in winter 30-60ish (destinations and hours a bit depending on where you are based and if you've gone fwb somebody in crewplanning)
Yearly total around 700 block
Average at home days during the summer: 12-15*
Average at home days during the winter: 15+*
*(including 11 guaranteed days off and RES10 + overall unplanned days)
Depending on where you are based (OSL,CDG), there are company per diems of 80€ for every day you're not a home.
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From: Between Timezones
Hello Ladies and Gents,
In case anyone wondering how the assessment is like, a bit of feedback from my side:
Applied in summer, mail by autumn that they stopped hiring, also in autumn i received a mail from Nikki saying that i applied and she wants to schedule a teams meet.
Teams meet with Nikki:
Nice atmosphere, open, honest, lots of talk from my side, little from hers (as usual during such interview stages), mainly questions about me, CV, why norse, talk about a difficult CRM related event/decision in the past etc etc. Nothing to prepare really, just an easy, straight forward chat. I have no idea (percentage wise) how much about the interview is due to the Germanwings event and how much is about actual norse suitability. To what I understand this teams meet is part of the assessment and the “results” have nothing to do with whether or not you get an invitation to the assessment, it seems like results from assessment and Nikki will somehow be combined to get a final decision.
Assessment on site:
ORY/LGW/OSL depending on availability.
Recruitment team consists of TRE and recruiting FO(s) - no psychologist.
Group Exercise about 10 minutes, split up in 2 groups, decide on a topic and then agree on a common solution
Interview: about 1 hr, nothing technical, again about CV, strengths, weaknesses, difficult CRM related situations in your past etc
Simulator: Type depending on assessment location. 737 NG in LGW and OSL, A350 in ORY. You are paired as PF/PM team with another applicant (1 hr in each role), takeoff, SID, vectors, ILS, GA incl. ENG FAIL, vectors VOR APP, landing. Main focus here on CRM and management of the flight/emergency. AP and FMS available. Use whatever procedures you are comfortable with from previous flown AC.
Duration about 8-9hrs depending on number of applicants. A few hours of waiting time in between can be spent by the coffee machine to have a chat with the other applicants.
Atmosphere really nice and welcoming. No traps. Depending on location including a lunch together as a group with the assessors.
Result per Mail usually within the next 5-10 days.
Starting dates atm February, March, April,May
All the best to those who applied
In case anyone wondering how the assessment is like, a bit of feedback from my side:
Applied in summer, mail by autumn that they stopped hiring, also in autumn i received a mail from Nikki saying that i applied and she wants to schedule a teams meet.
Teams meet with Nikki:
Nice atmosphere, open, honest, lots of talk from my side, little from hers (as usual during such interview stages), mainly questions about me, CV, why norse, talk about a difficult CRM related event/decision in the past etc etc. Nothing to prepare really, just an easy, straight forward chat. I have no idea (percentage wise) how much about the interview is due to the Germanwings event and how much is about actual norse suitability. To what I understand this teams meet is part of the assessment and the “results” have nothing to do with whether or not you get an invitation to the assessment, it seems like results from assessment and Nikki will somehow be combined to get a final decision.
Assessment on site:
ORY/LGW/OSL depending on availability.
Recruitment team consists of TRE and recruiting FO(s) - no psychologist.
Group Exercise about 10 minutes, split up in 2 groups, decide on a topic and then agree on a common solution
Interview: about 1 hr, nothing technical, again about CV, strengths, weaknesses, difficult CRM related situations in your past etc
Simulator: Type depending on assessment location. 737 NG in LGW and OSL, A350 in ORY. You are paired as PF/PM team with another applicant (1 hr in each role), takeoff, SID, vectors, ILS, GA incl. ENG FAIL, vectors VOR APP, landing. Main focus here on CRM and management of the flight/emergency. AP and FMS available. Use whatever procedures you are comfortable with from previous flown AC.
Duration about 8-9hrs depending on number of applicants. A few hours of waiting time in between can be spent by the coffee machine to have a chat with the other applicants.
Atmosphere really nice and welcoming. No traps. Depending on location including a lunch together as a group with the assessors.
Result per Mail usually within the next 5-10 days.
Starting dates atm February, March, April,May
All the best to those who applied