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Old 3rd Aug 2022, 18:48
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Originally Posted by ihatemorningflights
I thought roster is 5/4 which would have been better, but 5/3 is not soooo bad.
Roster is 5/4
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Old 3rd Aug 2022, 19:36
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Originally Posted by FlyingMan93
Did anybody get the invitation to the online assessment for Cadet Pilots scheme?
I just got invitation as A320 TR FO. Anybody else?
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Old 3rd Aug 2022, 19:51
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Originally Posted by SW1
Roster is 5/4
Do you maybe have any more info on recruitment? Can you choose your base before signing the conrtact? Is it hard to get a specific base?(for example VIE)
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 18:01
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Originally Posted by FlyingMan93
Did anybody get the invitation to the online assessment for Cadet Pilots scheme?
Hi,
Any news about this? Applied to Cadet program as well and nothing so far. Don't really know how to interpret that
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 12:00
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Hey,
Just got invited for the online assesment. I will do it later today, and can give you a feedback if needed. Anyone knows after this first stage what do they ask in the second one?
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 14:06
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Originally Posted by Abra4
Hey,
Just got invited for the online assesment. I will do it later today, and can give you a feedback if needed. Anyone knows after this first stage what do they ask in the second one?
Any feedback appreciated!
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 09:25
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Hello,

So i did the assesment a few days ago, and i'll like to write a little feedback that may help you.
The assesment is pretty straightforward. You have 10 tasks to complete. You can select the desired task yourself (you don't have to make them in order.) pilotest.com is a great website to practice the CUT-E tests. There you can find all of them i had on the assesment. The hardest part for me was the deductive and inductive thinking. In the 10 tasks there is an ATPL (thecnical test) there you will find 30 questions, and you have 10 minutes to complete them. Mainly, POF, OPS, and i had some electricity questions as well. No charts and no calculations as you just have 10 minutes. I managed to answer all the 30 questions so it can be done in 10 mins. There is also a task where you have to record videos, where you answer HR questions. I had : Why ryan(i guess because it is the same process they did not change these questions), Why we should hire you, and what was the hardest part in your aviation career. Before every task you can practice, use that tool because for the first time some of the tasks can be hard.

Don't be afraid it really is not that hard. Good luck everyone.
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 19:48
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Originally Posted by Abra4
Hello,

So i did the assesment a few days ago, and i'll like to write a little feedback that may help you.
The assesment is pretty straightforward. You have 10 tasks to complete. You can select the desired task yourself (you don't have to make them in order.) pilotest.com is a great website to practice the CUT-E tests. There you can find all of them i had on the assesment. The hardest part for me was the deductive and inductive thinking. In the 10 tasks there is an ATPL (thecnical test) there you will find 30 questions, and you have 10 minutes to complete them. Mainly, POF, OPS, and i had some electricity questions as well. No charts and no calculations as you just have 10 minutes. I managed to answer all the 30 questions so it can be done in 10 mins. There is also a task where you have to record videos, where you answer HR questions. I had : Why ryan(i guess because it is the same process they did not change these questions), Why we should hire you, and what was the hardest part in your aviation career. Before every task you can practice, use that tool because for the first time some of the tasks can be hard.

Don't be afraid it really is not that hard. Good luck everyone.
Are you Airbus rated? How soon did you receive the invitation for the online assessment?
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Old 12th Aug 2022, 20:21
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Originally Posted by limahotel
Are you Airbus rated? How soon did you receive the invitation for the online assessment?
I am rated pilot and the strange thing is that I got invited to Dublin but finally the assesment was full so I could not go but I have not received online assesment at all. Is it possible they just forget or they do not need!?
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Old 14th Aug 2022, 05:12
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Originally Posted by limahotel
Are you Airbus rated? How soon did you receive the invitation for the online assessment?

Hey, i am non-type rated cadet.i heard that for rated the assesment is only 4 tasks, or even no online assesment. I recieved it within 2-3 days. I got a positive answer now. Anyone have feedback on how long it takes until they give you a sim assesment? And also any of you applied for ryan as well?
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Old 14th Aug 2022, 23:00
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Please correct me, but with the two attached picture if I calculate with 48% tax then salary would be somthing like 2800 for FO (net). That is very low salary in Vienna. Do you have any info about taxation with Lauda?

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Old 15th Aug 2022, 07:39
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Well, don't know what you expect in 2022 moneywise.. With 100 hours you get around 3.5k net, but don't expect 100 during winter months, 2.5-2.8 probably is closer to 40-50BH/m.
It is not VERY low for VIE, unless you want to rent 2 bedroom apartment in center for 1.3k.. Remember, with 5/4 roster you work much less than other guys. Plenty of commuting options to be combined as whole RYR network available in uniform for... FREE!
During winter can get part time roster, then only every second block of 5 days need to be on base, so 5/13 is the roster. 10 days even in hotel will be 500-700 depending on how spoiled you are. They offer options, stability and recurrency. Any other operator does it this year??
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 07:48
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Originally Posted by RUDice
Well, don't know what you expect in 2022 moneywise.. With 100 hours you get around 3.5k net, but don't expect 100 during winter months, 2.5-2.8 probably is closer to 40-50BH/m.
It is not VERY low for VIE, unless you want to rent 2 bedroom apartment in center for 1.3k.. Remember, with 5/4 roster you work much less than other guys. Plenty of commuting options to be combined as whole RYR network available in uniform for... FREE!
During winter can get part time roster, then only every second block of 5 days need to be on base, so 5/13 is the roster. 10 days even in hotel will be 500-700 depending on how spoiled you are. They offer options, stability and recurrency. Any other operator does it this year??
it is not that bad to be honest. Wizz salary is more or less the same without the 5/4 roster. I guess from this 2.5-2.8 in the winter they still deduct the Type bond the same way than in the summer?
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 07:53
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Originally Posted by Abra4
it is not that bad to be honest. Wizz salary is more or less the same without the 5/4 roster. I guess from this 2.5-2.8 in the winter they still deduct the Type bond the same way than in the summer?
5/4 is just great. Wizz pays more in VIE. Senior FO salary around 5000 net. It is a big difference.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 08:20
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Originally Posted by RUDice
It is not VERY low for VIE, unless you want to rent 2 bedroom apartment in center for 1.3k.. Remember, with 5/4 roster you work much less than other guys. Plenty of commuting options to be combined as whole RYR network available in uniform for... FREE!
During winter can get part time roster, then only every second block of 5 days need to be on base, so 5/13 is the roster. 10 days even in hotel will be 500-700 depending on how spoiled you are. They offer options, stability and recurrency. Any other operator does it this year??
It is low. A320 F/O is a responsible job with large training cost attached.

All Vienna landlords are super excited to rent for summertime only and have an empty flat for winter.

5/4 you work exactly the same as the other guys: 900 hrs plus SIM and trainings. Except harder as the duties are more densely packed. The benefit of 4 off-duty is well worth it but deffo it is not working less.
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Free commute, are not the tickets all 19.99 anyway? Jokes aside what happens if RYR cancels your commute trip to base. Honest question.

Living in a hotel on an 70 EUR/day budget with food, cleaning, ground transport sounds exciting. Don't fool yourselves, it is Petrzalka on that money if you actually understand why you work for a salary at all.

Two points from the Friday's webinar that came unexpected:
- unsolicited explanation how great their SOPs are, about the multiple added safety layers and ongoing consultations with Airbus. The nice Irish gentleman who is usually razor sharp and keeps a point started going on in circles.
- his presentation partner letting it loose and trying to convince people base nomadism is a great job benefit for young people without commitments, how great it would be to enjoy 5 bases in five years.

Freudian slips on 2 sore points?
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Anyone have information about the sim assesment/techincal interview? Is it the same as for ryan?
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Originally Posted by ihatemorningflights
Please correct me, but with the two attached picture if I calculate with 48% tax then salary would be somthing like 2800 for FO (net). That is very low salary in Vienna. Do you have any info about taxation with Lauda?

I get 46,8k net at year 1, so 3,9k /over 12 months or 3,6k /over 13 months.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 09:03
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I get 46,8k net at year 1, so 3,9k /over 12 months or 3,6k /over 13 months.
Thanks for the info. So there is not such thing as FO and Senior FO with higher salary, it only increases with years?
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 09:06
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I have no idea, I don't work for Lauda. Those numbers are just what I get as after tax payment with the data you've provided.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 11:00
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent
It is low. A320 F/O is a responsible job with large training cost attached.

All Vienna landlords are super excited to rent for summertime only and have an empty flat for winter.

5/4 you work exactly the same as the other guys: 900 hrs plus SIM and trainings. Except harder as the duties are more densely packed. The benefit of 4 off-duty is well worth it but deffo it is not working less.
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Free commute, are not the tickets all 19.99 anyway? Jokes aside what happens if RYR cancels your commute trip to base. Honest question.

Living in a hotel on an 70 EUR/day budget with food, cleaning, ground transport sounds exciting. Don't fool yourselves, it is Petrzalka on that money if you actually understand why you work for a salary at all.

Two points from the Friday's webinar that came unexpected:
- unsolicited explanation how great their SOPs are, about the multiple added safety layers and ongoing consultations with Airbus. The nice Irish gentleman who is usually razor sharp and keeps a point started going on in circles.
- his presentation partner letting it loose and trying to convince people base nomadism is a great job benefit for young people without commitments, how great it would be to enjoy 5 bases in five years.

Freudian slips on 2 sore points?

Well, if you have this view already before getting a job, then cancel interview and leave that spot to someone else, who wants his logbook finally rolling..
No idea about cadets, but whenever I decide to leave, I can, permanent contract with all taxes paid. I doubt those 5k WZZ is exactly the same scheme.. They have 3 types of contracts, 5k could be that Swiss contract.
And by saying "work less" I mean DUTY TIME (spent in uniform) is not same BLOCK TIME! Yes, you may log 900 a year, or 90 a month, with around 140 duty hours same month. I used to have 200 duty hours per 100 block, as you noticed, it is 60 hour difference, or a week of 12 hours in the office. It is a HUGE difference. It is called productivity. And it is much higher than competitors, and that is due to short turnarounds, if you complain about that and rather go 1 hour standart, 5 bases with constant travels in between, go ahead, then tell me how terrible your life is!
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