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British Pilots : The fight back begins.

Old 10th Aug 2021, 09:35
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I wouldn’t be so sure. I already know EU citizens living on the continent who have investigated the rewrites process to obtain the right to live and work in the U.K. for an airline - at my company the salary satisfies the points required.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 09:47
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Indeed it's not hard to come to the UK after Brexit. Another own goal.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 10:51
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Absolute omnishambles.

But with anything involving the UK CAA & BALPA, this is the usual predictable outcome. They are both clueless, lazy, arrogant organisations that are not fit for purpose.

It will take years to get any sensible changes pushed though now. EASA don't care.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 13:41
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Well I think we should all be getting onto MPs and BALPA in this regard. If we are ineligible to apply for jobs in the EU whilst EU citizens are able to apply for jobs in the UK, well that is a ridiculous state of affaires that must be seen to without delay.

And before anyone tries, no, this isn't "what I voted for".
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 14:28
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I can only speak for Germany when I say it is a very simple process to get a work permit. I work with several British pilots who had a seamless transition after brexit
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 23:13
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Actually, the shortage list does not really matter as long as a prospective employer thinks it a good idea to hire from the EU, If they sponsor a candidate he or she will have all the points needed to get a work visa in the UK. After all, pilots usually earn above the threshold and do speak the required level of english for the job. There is no shortage requirement to be a sponsor as a company.
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 07:31
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A foreign airline can open a base in the UK. Cathay have done so too. Should they be hiring UKCAA license holders also?

In this situation these are EASA AOC holders who can legally operate UK-EU. To fly these machines you need an EASA license. To work out of the UK you need the right to work in the UK. I fail to understand how this is discriminatory against British pilots. Could someone explain this to me?

To all unemployed UKCAA license holders who did not already convert their license in the last 5 years I strongly urge to do so now.
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 18:18
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Slight thread drift - but are UK ATOs still allowed to train and examine to EASA licence requirements? Or has their business also been limited by Brexit to UK citizens who want to spend a fortune to obtain a UK CAA qualification with somewhat reduced employment possibilities? Or has the 10-15% collapse of the pound against the euro helped their business with the EU trainee market?
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 19:56
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UK ATOs were able to set up EASA equivalents before exit day subject to the main place of business rules or, alternatively, apply for fast track direct EASA approval starting the day after exit day. Most have taken the latter path and can offer both UK CAA and EASA ticks for the same course. My recollection is that the exchange rate was 1 = €1.11 around exit day and is now at €1.18, so the other way round I think, its the euro what has gone down relative to the pound.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 12:38
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Only issue with UK ATO's also getting an EASA approval is that an initial EASA IR skills test must be flown in EASA airspace, also some familiarisation training must be done in EASA airspace. Which is is fine if you're based in Southern England, but don't understand why some further north have done the same. Probably why CAE Oxford moved their Seneca's Belgium.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 20:04
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Alex Whittingham;

It was around €1.30 just prior to the referendum in 2016…
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Old 20th Aug 2021, 08:30
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Which is what both the official and unoffical leave campaigns promised
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