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IAG: BA restructuring may cost 12,000 jobs

Old 2nd Aug 2020, 07:54
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To paraphrase a former colleague (I believe he's one of those who has taken VR): the management at the company has spent years terrorising it's staff with threats of job cuts - the "T "word was definitely used.

It's been the management style for a long long time and it has resulted in Unions whose first response to claims of a crisis is the company is crying wolf..and that in turn has resulted in the banging of heads that TURIN mentioned.

The whole management/union dynamic has been one of perpetual confrontation/low level conflict, even when the billion plus euro/STG profits were briefly rolling in.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 09:38
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Actually I think TWO are to blame, W and C.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 10:17
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Wiggy

Correct.
When the profits rolled in: sorry folks, nothing for you, but AC gets a 61% raise.
When the economy tanks: sorry folks, YOU have to suffer, because WE spent the money on share buybacks, special dividends, fines for incompetence, and fuel-hedging.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 10:51
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Be extremely aware when Qatar wants to increase it share in IAG. Expect maintenance to move to Doha, expect all kinds of nasty things to occur. At the end of the day they only look at their own interests. And then you have the geopolitical issues between Qatar and the rest of the gulf on top of it.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 11:27
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It’s a bit late for London property then.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 12:47
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You're still thinking about Qatar as a white knight. You need to read other people's experiences with these guys. The culture of the company will be toxic like you've never seen before. And forget BALPA, they certainly won't talk to those guys.
They want BA for the North Atlantic routes. The Americans don't want more Qatar flights.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 12:54
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Its already moved out of LHR. No heavy maintenance anymore. No paint shop. TBA a once cutting edge workshop and hangar facility is now a Sim school. CraneBank, gone.
TBD, a world class engine overhaul and test facility, bulldozed. TBE, Stores for a private company. TBB, workshops and Concorde maintenance hangar, gone.
Very sad and shorted sighted of consecutive management policy.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 14:17
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Nonsense.
You misunderstood the point that they are buying up London property.

They are no saviour at all.
Do they not support terrorist groups to destabilise the region?
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 17:04
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BA Director of People has gone according to CH Aviation does that help
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 17:41
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I see the headline but no actual story.? Is that a credible website?
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 17:51
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Originally Posted by GKOC41 View Post
BA Director of People has gone according to CH Aviation does that help

Not really.

The COO stated that even if CV19 hadnít happened, he would be Ďcoming afterí the staff anyway.

How nice.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 18:41
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Originally Posted by GKOC41 View Post
BA Director of People has gone according to CH Aviation does that help
just to add, is this Angela Williams? Who was to leave this year anyway? Or her replacement who came from IAG cargo? If the former then itís old news, the latter would be more errr, interesting.
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 20:07
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The latter.
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 10:23
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BA have already won against the crew. Accept VR before close today, if you don't, you'll be considered for a role on the new mixed fleet contract at c50% wage cut. if you are not selected for new contract, you will get statutory redundancy not the enhanced VR. if you are offered the new contract but decline, you may not be eligible for redundancy at all (don't believe this to be legal, pretty sure redundancy would need to be paid anyway)

standard BA bullying, but from what I hear, significant numbers of legacy crew have already taken he VR.
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 10:57
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I wouldn’t describe it as “BA has won”. Sure the companies attitude has been a disgrace from the start, but the crew have been extremely badly advised by their union. Advised to ignore all emails and comms from BA, UNITE refusing to meet BA etc, then last week a massive. Climb down and told all crew to read emails and to consider the VR offer? Coupled with an extremely aggressive letter from Len to Cruz, threatening industrial action! Industrial action Len? Really? Your MF colleagues have been signing contracts and Completing the online assessments for weeks and taking up the slots that the legacy crews have been advised not to consider.
UNITE are one trick ponies and Len Mclusky will abandon it now and move on as he has been out manoeuvred from day1.
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 12:22
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Sadly

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I’m sorry to say , it is legal. Been done in BT , HSBC and Centrica owned British Gas going through it now.
Good luck to all at the moment.
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 12:47
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Nobody wins out of this one. The Company,Staff and Shareholders .

I think the Staff Unions failure to bargain collectively has let the members down.
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 13:20
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Looks like it might finally be the end for 'BASSA runs BA, darling'.
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 16:07
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Along with the signing of a new deal between IAG Cargo and Malaysia, the free money from the UK taxpayer to IAG for operating the Newquay service (not forgetting furlough cash), here’s a possible windfall of £163m for IAG.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...m-data-breach/
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Old 3rd Aug 2020, 22:51
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Originally Posted by 74woko View Post
Looks like it might finally be the end for 'BASSA runs BA, darling'.
Well it certainly looks like many of the more senior crew members have seen the writing on the wall in the last few days and have opted for VR...looking at the appropriate farcebook page I can see that it looks like a lot of good people are going or have already gone.

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