EK versus BA
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From: Escaped the sandpit 53° 32′ 9.19″ N, 9° 50′ 13.29″ E
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Just out of curiosity, about buying property in Dubai... of course it sounds interesting to get a "free house from the airline"
But how easy is to sell it when you decide is time to go home? And also putting 100k from your own money in such a unstable market... sounds discouraging. I'm not sure if I would take this allowance instead of the company accomodation. Not to mention, if you get in trouble in Dubai or EK, you will end up with a huge debt.
But how easy is to sell it when you decide is time to go home? And also putting 100k from your own money in such a unstable market... sounds discouraging. I'm not sure if I would take this allowance instead of the company accomodation. Not to mention, if you get in trouble in Dubai or EK, you will end up with a huge debt.
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But if hard cash is the motivator, you’d be better off joining flydubai in the first place. (Upgrade at 2.5 years). Especially for a stint under 10 years.
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Is that an official policy? If it is then BA sounds charming. You might have a million valid reasons for turning them down at that point. If the door is to remain closed after that, then is that the kind of company you want to work for?
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A colleague turned them down, then applied again a year later with no joy. Like you say, everyone’s circumstances will be different.
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To put it as simply as I can, go to BA if you want more control over your lifestyle, or go to EK if you want quicker career progression and/or a greater ability to earn more sooner. However, as has already been said, EK is no longer as financially lucrative as it used to be.
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To put it as simply as I can, go to BA if you want more control over your lifestyle, or go to EK if you want quicker career progression and/or a greater ability to earn more sooner. However, as has already been said, EK is no longer as financially lucrative as it used to be.
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From: South of the North pole
Exactly!! Probably a good few years before it becomes worthwhile as well, might as well have earned a lot more money with EK even though they have their problems as well.
Simply put, BA is no longer what they used to be, the airline has been destroyed.
Simply put, BA is no longer what they used to be, the airline has been destroyed.
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Thats utter cr*p. You may have less control, you still have control enough to shape your roster. If you are talking about wanting x trip on y day, sure. But if you want to build a block of free days, drop a trip in exchange for earned credit, or want a particular destination, a combination of smart bidding and trip swaps can give you this. 😎
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I am extremely junior (>90% down my list) and what makes it bearable is the swapping. I get nothing i want from JSS but can often get a good roster by swapping. It helps living close to base and being flexible.
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From: Escaped the sandpit 53° 32′ 9.19″ N, 9° 50′ 13.29″ E
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I don't know much about EK - the Middle East has never appealed (yet). But JSS is certainly making those in the lower third of BA's ranks (myself included) think long and hard about whether it's worth it any more. BA have historically always paid less than the competitors in the early years, but have instead offered lifestyle options and a decent pay-scale, pension and rostering system. I'd argue at least 3 out of 4 of those no longer exist.
Personally I think if you're young, and can afford to sacrifice 5 years of your life, BA might still be worth it in the long run - IF you want long haul. Bear in mind however - as mentioned elsewhere, the company want long haul trips to become 24 hour night stops in airport hotels. If that happens, there'll be no point whatsoever.
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Roster swapping does indeed help to mitigate the failings of JSS for the juniors. Successfully doing so however means being married to your iPad and obsessively checking every single open time notification to get something satisfactory (because let's face it, no-one's going to swap their midweek LCA for your weekend 2 day 6). For me as a junior, the hours I spend trying to piece together a sensible roster probably rise into double digits every month.
Mrs. Dupre gets quite annoyed at the amount of time I'm glued to the ipad.
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