2017 Pilot earning
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 4
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From: Macau
1) Air Macau
2) LHS
3) A320
4) 4 Years of service
5) 240
6) 4-6/month
7) 900
8) US$90k/year basic
9) 13th salary (by contract), 14th salary (discretionary), sector pay, duty pay, per diem, overtime, triple time on public holidays, housing allowance, laundry allowance, transport allowance, performance incentive.
10) US$200k before tax. Low tax regime gives US$190k after tax. Plus provident fund of 12.5% of basic salary on top, only payable in cash after every 4 years of service.
2) LHS
3) A320
4) 4 Years of service
5) 240
6) 4-6/month
7) 900
8) US$90k/year basic
9) 13th salary (by contract), 14th salary (discretionary), sector pay, duty pay, per diem, overtime, triple time on public holidays, housing allowance, laundry allowance, transport allowance, performance incentive.
10) US$200k before tax. Low tax regime gives US$190k after tax. Plus provident fund of 12.5% of basic salary on top, only payable in cash after every 4 years of service.
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 2
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From: wherever Im Sent
Hello all,
First post on here hope your all well ! Fly safe !
1) Eastern Airways UK
2) Right Hand Seat
3) Jetstream 41
4) 2 Years
5) Only Get 7 Days Off PM As A Treat Sometimes 8, Max Duty Hours, 4/6 Some Times 7 Sectors Per Day
6) 15+ Night Stops Per Month Very Rarely At Home Base With Lots Of Days Off Out Station With Only Duty Pay For Your Troubles
7) 60/70hrs Per Month Average
8) Basic Salary £21,495 No Service Pay For FO's You Get Pay for TT and Hours On Type, Joined Company Min Hours So My Salary Is Just Under £23k
9) No Sector Pay, £1.30 Per Hour Duty Pay Roughly £3.5K Per Year 100% Taxed. Total Gross £26K Per Year Net £20,840 That's £1734.26 Net Per Month
10) Pension is 1% from Company 1% Employee, Day Off Payments Very Rare FO £200
First post on here hope your all well ! Fly safe !
1) Eastern Airways UK
2) Right Hand Seat
3) Jetstream 41
4) 2 Years
5) Only Get 7 Days Off PM As A Treat Sometimes 8, Max Duty Hours, 4/6 Some Times 7 Sectors Per Day
6) 15+ Night Stops Per Month Very Rarely At Home Base With Lots Of Days Off Out Station With Only Duty Pay For Your Troubles
7) 60/70hrs Per Month Average
8) Basic Salary £21,495 No Service Pay For FO's You Get Pay for TT and Hours On Type, Joined Company Min Hours So My Salary Is Just Under £23k
9) No Sector Pay, £1.30 Per Hour Duty Pay Roughly £3.5K Per Year 100% Taxed. Total Gross £26K Per Year Net £20,840 That's £1734.26 Net Per Month
10) Pension is 1% from Company 1% Employee, Day Off Payments Very Rare FO £200
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 71
Likes: 4
From: The North
1) Loganair
2) RHS
3) SF340
4) 1.5 years
5) Unsure total, off 9 days a month exc. leave.
6) Base dependant, some nil, about 4 or 5 per month for me.
7) 550-600 in a year.
8) £30K
9) £9 per report. £3 per sector. £23 per UK nightstop. Day Off pay £300. 20% pension (8% from me).
10) Averaging monthly gross £3100, net £2500. Rich in the flying I do.
2) RHS
3) SF340
4) 1.5 years
5) Unsure total, off 9 days a month exc. leave.
6) Base dependant, some nil, about 4 or 5 per month for me.
7) 550-600 in a year.
8) £30K
9) £9 per report. £3 per sector. £23 per UK nightstop. Day Off pay £300. 20% pension (8% from me).
10) Averaging monthly gross £3100, net £2500. Rich in the flying I do.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 387
Likes: 1
From: Scotland mainly, rather than at home.
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 762
Likes: 0
From: UK
Eastern
dont forget
11) £50 disruption payment if; its a tuesday, its raining, been an alien invasion, >4 hours delay thats not down to tech, weather, airport closing, global flood but will be paid if this time its a consequence of aforementioned alien invasion, if its not a tuesday. Please note that all disruption payments will be declined in the event you qualify for a disruption payment.
11) £50 disruption payment if; its a tuesday, its raining, been an alien invasion, >4 hours delay thats not down to tech, weather, airport closing, global flood but will be paid if this time its a consequence of aforementioned alien invasion, if its not a tuesday. Please note that all disruption payments will be declined in the event you qualify for a disruption payment.
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 2
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From: wherever Im Sent
As said above the crew make this company, the people who we work with are amazing couldn’t get through the day without them! Flying is amazing solid building block to move on to pastures new one day! After my 5 year bond, that is their ploy to hold on to crew, We have lots of crew departing to Jet2. As for rostering / crewing / management absolutely appalling I have nothing to compare with but the way I’m spoken to if I try to voice my opinion on changes to my roster etc which happen daily, and if you do moan next comes the punishment roster lol I’ve never had a roster yet that’s has stayed as published. On average I would say 95% of my roster changes. But I’m greatful for the Job !
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,658
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From: Up north
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: Netherlands
eastern, vlg, enter air, small planet earning
Please, please stop it! Don,t even go on assessment. Get those scam airlines on their knees.
If they can not or don,t want to pay decent salaries, then they will be due to lack of pilots forced to pay a market conform salary or simply have to stop their operations.
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51
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From: UK
I really don,t understand that any pilot accepts these lousy salaries, pay for type rating and even pay for line training.
Please, please stop it! Don,t even go on assessment. Get those scam airlines on their knees.
If they can not or don,t want to pay decent salaries, then they will be due to lack of pilots forced to pay a market conform salary or simply have to stop their operations.
Please, please stop it! Don,t even go on assessment. Get those scam airlines on their knees.
If they can not or don,t want to pay decent salaries, then they will be due to lack of pilots forced to pay a market conform salary or simply have to stop their operations.
The regulators and pressure from unions (supported by those of us already established in the industry) is the only way any of these poor t&c’s/pay can be addressed. Otherwise, one can only hope the supply of cadets due to to excessive costs and lack of funds, will dry up - then perhaps improvements will happen......
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,563
Likes: 35
From: I wouldn't know.
So easy for any one us us to preach when we’re already established in an airliner seat, earning decent bucks. Take yourself back to the early 2000’s when jobs were scarce and sat with a fresh licence, all you wanted to do was sit at the front of an airliner and start building those hours to further your career. If you don’t take the job, someone else will whilst you’re sat there hoping/dreaming and still having to pay to keep your licence current.
The regulators and pressure from unions (supported by those of us already established in the industry) is the only way any of these poor t&c’s/pay can be addressed. Otherwise, one can only hope the supply of cadets due to to excessive costs and lack of funds, will dry up - then perhaps improvements will happen......
The regulators and pressure from unions (supported by those of us already established in the industry) is the only way any of these poor t&c’s/pay can be addressed. Otherwise, one can only hope the supply of cadets due to to excessive costs and lack of funds, will dry up - then perhaps improvements will happen......
Needless to say, i never paid for a type rating, always got paid for a job and don't think anybody should do that, but i know it is the accepted norm for many new-hires today. Which is why i do applaud ryanairs move to bond the cadet instead of let them pay, which i hope will put pressure on their competitors to do the same.
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 919
Likes: 6
From: uk
So easy for any one us us to preach when we’re already established in an airliner seat, earning decent bucks. Take yourself back to the early 2000’s when jobs were scarce and sat with a fresh licence, all you wanted to do was sit at the front of an airliner and start building those hours to further your career. If you don’t take the job, someone else will whilst you’re sat there hoping/dreaming and still having to pay to keep your licence current.
The regulators and pressure from unions (supported by those of us already established in the industry) is the only way any of these poor t&c’s/pay can be addressed. Otherwise, one can only hope the supply of cadets due to to excessive costs and lack of funds, will dry up - then perhaps improvements will happen......
The regulators and pressure from unions (supported by those of us already established in the industry) is the only way any of these poor t&c’s/pay can be addressed. Otherwise, one can only hope the supply of cadets due to to excessive costs and lack of funds, will dry up - then perhaps improvements will happen......
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 453
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From: UK
Is it true that you guys at Eastern are now having to work more and more weekends ? Probably one of it's best selling points (other than the great crews) was the fact it was largely Mon-Fri flying, except at Aberdeen with it's Sunday flights, and a few charters.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 387
Likes: 1
From: Scotland mainly, rather than at home.
Is it true that you guys at Eastern are now having to work more and more weekends ? Probably one of it's best selling points (other than the great crews) was the fact it was largely Mon-Fri flying, except at Aberdeen with it's Sunday flights, and a few charters.
As I said, it's a hobby from a base (sometimes a gateway near you). But you have to be able to afford a job like this.
In spite of the above post re disruption payments, I can only speak of my own experience, and I've not had one denied. I know some who have though, but the rules are in black and white in the manuals.
It's ok here, management are approachable, never bother me, but I keep my nose clean and get on with my job, and for that I feel appreciated. As I say, that's my experience and I'm not exactly new here.
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 32
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From: Netherlands
in Europe we do definitely something wrong! Even at the majors the yearly earnings are much lower than in the US. AND we pay much more tax on it. Question of establishment of much, much stronger pan-European pilot unions and every single pilot should not be afraid to fight for their own conditions and be solid air for other pilots concerned. And never, ever accept pay to fly again!QUOTE=Reluctant Bus Driver;10423856]AA
CA
A320
27 years
15-20 days a month
a lot
85-90 hours a month
315 000 usd
35000 401k (pension) contribution[/QUOTE]
CA
A320
27 years
15-20 days a month
a lot
85-90 hours a month
315 000 usd
35000 401k (pension) contribution[/QUOTE]
