2017 Pilot earning
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 42
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From: Fort Lauderdale
The pay has come back at the U.S. legacies after years of stagnation due to first deregulation then the aftermath of 911. Other than that we are still basically under a bankruptcy contract. Delta and United are doing better. Factor in their profit sharing and narrow body captain pay goes north of 400 000 if you work hard..
Joined: Nov 2013
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From: NYC
For clarity, please post like this :
1) QR
2) RHS
3) 777
4) 3
5) Worked 230 days (of which 15 days off downroute), leave 42 days, off 94 days
6) All flights are with an overnight apart from line check
7) Block 1100 + 260 hours deadhead
8) NET approx 100.000,- for basic and flight pay
9) per diem depends on destination roughly 550,- to 750 euro a month, 3500,- housing + utilities
10) NET income 145.000,- euro per year
1) QR
2) RHS
3) 777
4) 3
5) Worked 230 days (of which 15 days off downroute), leave 42 days, off 94 days
6) All flights are with an overnight apart from line check
7) Block 1100 + 260 hours deadhead
8) NET approx 100.000,- for basic and flight pay
9) per diem depends on destination roughly 550,- to 750 euro a month, 3500,- housing + utilities
10) NET income 145.000,- euro per year
Is this for real?! 1100 BLOCK + 260 positioning?! 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 26
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From: At home
1) Airline employer: Nordic
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; B757/767
4) Years of Service with company: 20
5) How many days you worked: 15-20/month
6) How many overnights you had 10/month
7) How many hours you blocked 550/yr
8) Gross income: aprox eur180.000
9) Extra Pay: Per diem +/- eur16.000 untaxed, pension +/- eur40.000 untaxed
10) Total gross income. +/- eur236.000
All in all a very reasonable bunch to work with
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; B757/767
4) Years of Service with company: 20
5) How many days you worked: 15-20/month
6) How many overnights you had 10/month
7) How many hours you blocked 550/yr
8) Gross income: aprox eur180.000
9) Extra Pay: Per diem +/- eur16.000 untaxed, pension +/- eur40.000 untaxed
10) Total gross income. +/- eur236.000
All in all a very reasonable bunch to work with
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,226
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From: UK
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 42
Likes: 1
From: world
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 441
Likes: 1
From: UK
The key here is over time. The business model TUI uses is that it is crewed to about 80% of its pilot need which allows pilots to significantly increase their take home pay, should they want to. Some pilots do a lot of overtime, some pilots do a little and some pilots do none. It’s up to them. The company benefit because their overall salary bill is less, by not having to carry so many pilots over the quieter winter months, while effectively employing 20% of it peak pilot requirements by employing contract (company pilots) on a daily rate, without having to also pay pension, NI, LOL, Private Health Care and the numerous other costs associated with employing a pilot. In general it works well.
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 19
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From: Braintree
As stated above, the overtime at TUI is very lucrative and win win for the company and pilot.
As a year 5 FO I’ve grossed just over £100k per year over the last three years.
Yes I sign up for alot of overtime but my yearly flying hours are still no more than about 800 ish.
With no overtime I’m guessing it would be around the 620 ish hours mark and just over 80k gross.
Captains doing lots of overtime are grossing up to £200k.
As a year 5 FO I’ve grossed just over £100k per year over the last three years.
Yes I sign up for alot of overtime but my yearly flying hours are still no more than about 800 ish.
With no overtime I’m guessing it would be around the 620 ish hours mark and just over 80k gross.
Captains doing lots of overtime are grossing up to £200k.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 480
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From: at the edge of the alps
For clarity, please post like this :
1) Airline employer: Central European Legacy Carrier
2) Seat: left front
3) Aircraft type: E195
4) Years of Service with company: almost 30
5) How many days you worked: 205
6) How many overnights you had: a couple per month
7) How many hours you blocked: 820 (including credit hours)
8) Gross income. 150K EUR
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) 15K EUR (Instructor), (rather low per diems not included, a few hundred per month)
10) Total gross income. 165K EUR (plus 5% pension contribution in pension plan plus 1,73% contribution in state severance payment funds plus stat pension contribution)
Taxed at roughly 40-45% overall.
1) Airline employer: Central European Legacy Carrier
2) Seat: left front
3) Aircraft type: E195
4) Years of Service with company: almost 30
5) How many days you worked: 205
6) How many overnights you had: a couple per month
7) How many hours you blocked: 820 (including credit hours)
8) Gross income. 150K EUR
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) 15K EUR (Instructor), (rather low per diems not included, a few hundred per month)
10) Total gross income. 165K EUR (plus 5% pension contribution in pension plan plus 1,73% contribution in state severance payment funds plus stat pension contribution)
Taxed at roughly 40-45% overall.
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: LPA
1) Airline employer: Vueling
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; A320 family
4) Years of Service with company: 7
5) How many days you worked: 11-13/month
6) How many overnights you had: 0-1/month
7) How many hours you blocked: nearly 900 hours/year
8) Gross income: 154.000€ year 2018 (tax certificate)
9) Taxes around 35-40%
10) Net income around 100k
At homebase.....
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; A320 family
4) Years of Service with company: 7
5) How many days you worked: 11-13/month
6) How many overnights you had: 0-1/month
7) How many hours you blocked: nearly 900 hours/year
8) Gross income: 154.000€ year 2018 (tax certificate)
9) Taxes around 35-40%
10) Net income around 100k
At homebase.....
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 63
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From: Birmingham
