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What a crazy excuse for a career?

Old 9th Feb 2018, 18:26
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Perhaps one of the more rational responses.
Still prepared to work for slave wages though.
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Old 9th Feb 2018, 18:51
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Have tried both slave wages and a pretty good salary. Personally, I am ok with some sort of "lower salary" in the beginning. I started at about 1600 pounds per month Gross as a SEP FI. Now, 10 years down the line; around 133.000/year excluding pension, LHS in LCC with an annual pay increase. I will never own a lambo, but thats ok with me.
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Old 9th Feb 2018, 19:45
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Because Iím an aviator and I luv to fly....
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Old 9th Feb 2018, 20:42
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BPI post is so accurate.

Investing properly will set you up for the future very few people do.

SSDK, if you want to drive a super car rent through a super car club.
My mate used to own a gallardo. Clutch change is £6k. He worked out an average cost of £2 per mile would cover everything. Did sound amazing through a tunnel though.
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Old 10th Feb 2018, 07:52
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Most advisors are thieves.

Not quite true - I left aviation full time to become an IFA and run my business we look after clients with regulation very difficult to be anything else thank goodness. And remember an advisors advice now is effectively guaranteed for life they carry the liability to the grave.

I now FI weekends days off so and thatís keeps me attached to the flying thing. Do ATPL groundschool and PPL IMC night.

I do agree with saving though many donít and lifeís is bleak at retirement - divorce is disaster for most clients Ive dealt with as Wife seems always to get house and many guys start again at 50 plus with a 300K mortgage. And spousal maintance !

Many airline friends love it many hate it but almost all IFAS who work for themselves love it, ones who work for companies not so much, strange old world.

Flying the aircraft is wonderful working for for modern companies not so IMHO.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 12:37
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Well done you, what a clever boy! How about a couple more posts just to let us all know what a financial genius you are.

There's probably a middle way between p!ssing away all your income on cars / ex-wives and spending all your time, like bpi, hoarding your cash while life passes you by. True enough, none of us wants to live like a pauper in retirement but, on the other hand, what's the point of relentlessly acquiring digits in a bank account during the prime of your life?
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 13:07
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Why does having a Lamborghini make you a sad prat? They’re fine examples of motoring engineering. I can imagine if you’re enthusiastic about cars, like them and can afford one it might bring you hours of fun and enjoyment. They’re not my cup of tea, but that’s my personal taste.

I always think people denigrating others because they don’t spend their own money on what you personally would choose points rather more to that persons lack of emotional intelligence. And there’s a lot of it about.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 14:11
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Have you worked outside of aviation? I mean an entirely different profession? One that says itís 9-5 Monday to Friday, but in reality isnít. Or have you ever owned a business and have it consume your every day? Ever wake up on a Sunday dreading Monday so much that you are unable to sleep that night?

Been there, done that. Reality is that if you wish the same remuneration (letís say as an SFO up to Captain of a medium jet) then thatís your life. Every sector in every industry wants more for less. Outside of aviation is no different. Iíd happily not go back to anything resembling a Ďdesk jobí or the fairytale 9-5
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 19:11
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There is more in the world than the British roads and most of the people at WOW are very happy and don't see it as sentence.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 21:58
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I have done the 9-5 mon-fri (which is actually 8:30-6 plus commute anything from 45 mins to 2 hrs each way) in London. Tube doing rush hour is sole destroying.
I would take getting up at 4:30 anytime over going through that again.
And I actually get a lot more days off than before.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 22:10
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Enjoying this thread and especially button push ignored's posts. Also looking forward to the elaboration :-)
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 04:30
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Straight answer, donít go to Iceland if you donít have to. I say the same to others regarding China, the ME or anywhere else that requires upheaval. If you have reservations from the offset then youíre destined to be unhappy.

Same as any other career in any other industry. If youíre not truely committed then itís a chore.

If youíre a wannabe, then thatís different. You go where youíre given a break. We all did and made the necessary sacrifices. Again, pretty much the same as any other professional career. Aviation isnít unique.
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 10:06
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Investment banking is one of the most brutal industries and many don’t make the big bucks. £100-200k a year is pretty standard with bonus and everything but 60hr weeks minimum and expect to be responding to emails when on holiday. A good friend of just got made up to MD and Merril Lynch salary wise it is insane average is £450k but she has sacrificed a lot to get there. When I ask her why she doesn’t quit she says she loves it too much. And honestly she does not show off her money at all and would do the job for less.

Equally my best mate earns £9 an hour as a welder has raised a family always works over time and was excited when he got £500 Xmas bonus. He also loves his job and wouldn’t do anything else.

If you don’t love the job there is no point.

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Old 17th Feb 2018, 15:44
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Funny banking is mentioned, I jacked in a position in the City to go and learn to drive trains for a living, though I also took a good look at commercial aviation. It wasn't really the hours that were a problem (I didn't work for an IB) but I just got sick and tired of the office and the politics. I would only go back if I absolutely had to.

Most jobs in banking, law, accountancy, consulting etc. which pay big money require insane hours and usually have loads of politics attached to them, it's cutthroat and you basically sell your soul to them. I did meet one bloke who really had it made following twenty years in an IB, he said he treated it in his mind like a massive game and that's what kept him going. Funnily enough, at the same event I also met a train driver who had switched from banking...
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