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Air Berlin filing for bankruptcy?

Old 18th Oct 2017, 18:25
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And what exactly do you do at that airline? Anyway, don't worry The engines had hardly spooled down before the Luftfahrtbundesamt in vorauseilender Gehorsam blew their trumpets in the public, announcing that they were onto the case.

Unprofessional behavior, yes, but there are in my opinion other issues in aviation that need more attention than this..
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 20:16
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Tower asks me for tower inspection like once a week. So, what’s the point. Flying without approved SOP for “flyby”.
Damn hysterical germans.
And for the LBA: where have you been when the management . What happened to the proof of economic capacity required for all the small airliners struggling every day.
Instead you‘re going after a pilot who finished his last day at the company with some melancholy and who dares to fly his plane in manual mode.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 20:33
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Approx. €700 Million deficit during each of the last couple of years, wasn't it? Operations only possible because of Emihad's cash injections?
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 21:55
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Looks like a standard go around to me.
Good for them.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 22:30
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Looks like a failry standard go around to me.

The press claim i caused "alarm" amongst the pax, if you listen to the onboard recordings made by pax, everyone was laughing and clapping.

Now, if they had rolled it ...
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 22:34
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Excellent display by the Germans! Someone give that man a job!
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 07:08
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SLF here: if they're going to fly an uneventful, boring flight, it had better be on time.

On the other had; if the captain said on the tannoy "ladies and gentlemen we are going on a low level tour of the airport and surrounding countryside", count me in, screw the schedule, forget the taxi, lets go burn some fuel. And yes please, do a barrel roll but please make the first one at some decent altitude because I don't think you'll have had much practise with them on this type.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 08:11
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No doubt the same authorities (and PPRuNe PC-pilots)who see nothing wrong with pay-to-fly bare-minimum training schemes, zero-hours contracts, wet leased aircraft operated for years far from their regulator, rostering to exhaustion and beyond will be tireless in their investigation of this "incident".
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 08:30
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Well done that man and his crew!

If I was the owner of an airline, I'd be making a beeline for his LinkedIn account faster than you can say 'DFO'. We need real people with real skills in the cockpit, who can use their vast experience and skills to perform out of the ordinary when called for. This guy certainly know his aeroplane, and used a once-in-a-lifetime chance to send his airline off in style.

And I will bet you all the tea in China, the passengers in the back was loving it as much as the crew up front. As for the LBA, quite possibly one of the most inept, arrogant and in-bread regulators in the civilised world, they can go stuff themselves.

Well done, well done indeed!
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 08:36
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Pax are paying for a safe flight from A to B, not unwilling participants in a flyby. These guys should be hang, drawn and quartered. Don’t bother applying for a job at my Airline either, we don’t want you.
This implies that the flyby was unsafe. It wasn´t, case closed. I sure hope what YOU want does not play a role in the airline you are.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 08:54
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Pre Approved manoeuvre.

Bunch on whiners on here as per usual from the children of the magenta line.

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Old 19th Oct 2017, 15:12
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The crash databases are full of non compliant, unprofessional "stick and rudder Gods"

Come on with this "children of the Magenta whining" rubbish, it's not exactly a hard manoeuvre to pull off, and if it wasn't sanctioned/approved/briefed/trained then he/she probably doesn't own a license anymore. Bent metal box much.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 15:57
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UK CAA would go after them also. What would be the yay men's attitude had something gone wrong.
I wonder if the Captain will put this on his cv....
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 16:02
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Would the UK CAA ignore a video taped incident like this (0:28)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kle80KB_s3I&t=28s

German LBA/BFU did.....
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 16:12
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As someone said, a standard ground: due to losing the visual reference at low level because of tears in the eyes. A/C about or trending towards unstable, so a GA is the SOP.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 20:28
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Leave the air show antics, to the current air show pilots, who are current on type.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 21:45
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Originally Posted by Nightstop View Post
Pax are paying for a safe flight from A to B, not unwilling participants in a flyby. These guys should be hang, drawn and quartered. Don’t bother applying for a job at my Airline either, we don’t want you.
If the rest of the pilots are like you then, no, no one would want to bother applying to your airline. GMAFB, it's a go around, not an inverted fly by.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 21:51
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
No doubt the same authorities (and PPRuNe PC-pilots)who see nothing wrong with pay-to-fly bare-minimum training schemes, zero-hours contracts, wet leased aircraft operated for years far from their regulator, rostering to exhaustion and beyond will be tireless in their investigation of this "incident".
No doubt. Lots of people on here who appear to be required to be lead by the hand for everything. I worry about the guys who wouldn't do a last fly by. No soul.
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Old 20th Oct 2017, 09:38
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The A320 (registration D-ABDX) on flight #AB3928 from Düsseldorf arrived in Reykjavik at 10:55pm yesterday, but the return flight earlier this morning was cancelled.
Isavia, Iceland’s airport operator issued a statement saying “Air Berlin filed a petition of the opening of insolvency proceedings in August and the unpaid airport charges incurred prior the insolvency period.”…”Isavia will have additional member of staff located at the airport to assist those who will be affected by this action if needed.”
http://www.airlive.net/breaking-air-...rport-charges/
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Old 20th Oct 2017, 11:28
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There might be a problem then. Before official insolvency proceedings are opened next month, air berlin cannot, by law, pay any open bill from before they filed for insolvency. And then Isavia will get the same deal as any other creditor, probably a cent per Euro or less.
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