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Old 6th Sep 2017, 07:31
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Sorry folks didn't mean to get into a Virgin v BA debate.

There were a number of mentions of BA before I wrote my post hence my contribution.

Best of luck in your decision.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 08:06
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I believe that Delta has a fleet of around 850 aircraft that plus Virgin must make it bigger than IAG ?
Surely with just 2 airlines involved instead of IAGs multiple airlines it seems much less of a mess.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 18:13
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Originally Posted by StopStart View Post
We are well remunerated and our pension is the best in the industry. Time to command is fair for a seniority-based airline.
There are mumbles and moans as in any airline but on balance it's a good place to work. You will obviously get varying opinions but that's mine.
It is good but hardly the best in the industry. It doesn't not compare to the pension schemes in Scandinavia for instance.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 19:50
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And are these Scandinavian pensions still open to new joiners and which companies are you referring to? I can't imagine the new "Irish" SAS pension is up to much.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 20:48
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Sorry to ask again...

Is the time to command still around 10 years?

Not having the best rep in the business regarding job security, how do people feel now that Delta are basically running the show? Im guessing a lot more positive? Does anyone worry that they might pull the plug/asset strip the LHR slots etc? Obviously no body can know, but being on the inside you get a feeling of the direct that the business is taking.

Thanks for the answers in advance!
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Old 9th Sep 2017, 15:49
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Can anyone speak from recent experience, how long Virgin take to reply to your initial application?

appreciate it probably depends slightly on if you are in the yes/no/maybe pile of CVs

I have read on previous virgin threads that it can be a considerable wait...
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Old 9th Sep 2017, 21:23
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Same question here. Do they always respond, even if it's a no, or are you just left hanging?
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Old 10th Sep 2017, 20:35
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Yep, they always respond. Wait time is very variable depending on how many applied, how long it's open for etc.
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 13:23
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That's good to know, thank you.
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 22:10
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Originally Posted by Tricia Takanawa View Post
Sorry to ask again...

Is the time to command still around 10 years?

Not having the best rep in the business regarding job security, how do people feel now that Delta are basically running the show? Im guessing a lot more positive? Does anyone worry that they might pull the plug/asset strip the LHR slots etc? Obviously no body can know, but being on the inside you get a feeling of the direct that the business is taking.

Thanks for the answers in advance!
Delta is the most profitable airline in the world. I imagine this is beneficial to the airline in terms of bulk purchasing and best practices. Too bad VS pilots can't match the Delta pilot pay - I met one senior 20-year 767 FO (MAN layover) who made $400K last year!
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Old 12th Sep 2017, 01:17
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And why do you think is that?

Because the US pilot unions are by far more united and stronger than us wimpy unions in europe.
Stand up all together, be unionosed all together!
We in Europe only mown p, but do not act!
We just let it happen!

Don,t complain after. Vote, go on strike and stay on strike till greedy management gives in.
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Old 4th Oct 2017, 13:49
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Virgin Atlantic schedule B787

hi all,
i was wondering what a typical roster is for a Virgin Atlantic FO on 787? how many days away and how many days off.

Are there also flights longer than 4 days?
are there any plans that VS will also add holiday destinations to the 787 devision? such as carribean, which is now on the airbus fleet?

Thanks,.
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 16:53
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Any Airbus rated people heard anything?

Non Monarch people that is...
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 08:14
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It's been a month and I've not heard a peep.
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 11:19
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The recruitment ads always run for a certain time and are then withdrawn. I guess today was the day for airbus to close. No doubt the monarch one will stay for a while longer. The team reads all cvs regardless hence it can take some time to receive an answer positive or negative. No monarch conspiracy I'm afraid, just giving people a chance after their difficult week. It'd be nice if the rest of the airline businesses thought similar.....kudos to the other companies giving monarch crews a lifeline though too.

Edited to add monarch pilots will go through exactly the same process as any other applicant, that's the role of HR to ensure a level playing field
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 12:07
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I don’t think “Monarch guys” feel “entitled” at all.

“Entitled:Believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment”

Most of us were going about our normal business a week ago. In the days following the collapse it has been absolutely amazing how pro-active so many companies have been in offering opportunities to crews made redundant. Within 24 hours of the announcement at least 6 major companies had targeted the pilots with “fast track” opportunities. Within 48 hours at least 2 companies had sent recruitment personnel to the UK to start the interview process. By yesterday, at least one company was offering new contracts of employment.

From the asssesments I have attended this week, the recruiters were sympathetic, but that wasn’t why they had organised themselves at such breakneck speed. They were expanding their operations and saw an opportunity to satisfy that expansion with current, experienced, and well trained people, who had instantly become available as a resource. Without doubt, it is being actioned as a sound business decision.

I am not aware of anybody who thinks they won’t have to go through the normal induction processes and whatever any of us are feeling at the moment, I promise you that a sense of “ entitlement” isn’t one of them. Some companies see an opportunity for pilots who are ready to go “straight out of the box.” Unusually, you are also seeing pilots with very significant experience levels (20,000+) and qualification levels (TRI/TRE etc.) who ordinarily wouldn’t be on the market.

One comment I heard from an HR member of one particular airlines recruitment team this last week, was that it had been nice to see such a “happy” bunch of people in a conference room. These were all people who knew each other and were readily interacting with each other. Unlike regular recruitment sessions you weren’t seeing people competing with each other, but clearly looking to help each other.” I rather got the impression that for them, the normal process had been turned on it’s head, and was easier than perhaps it normally was.

I am sure most of my colleagues wouldn’t want to “queue jump” anybody, and I am also sure everybody understands the disruption to the status quo. However, this seems to be an opportunity for good companies to satisfy genuine demand with an exceptional glut of quality supply. Clearly this is an enormous opportunity for people whose lives have been turned upside down this last week, and for that I guarantee we are humbled, grateful, impressed, but in no way “entitled.”
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 12:40
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Well said!
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 13:25
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Monarch pilots and crew.

On Friday, several of us from Titan Airways went to LTN to meet our Monarch colleagues. All of us came away thinking what a great group of people you are.

We enjoyed meeting you and want to thank you for taking the time to talk with us.

Whilst we do not have jobs for all displaced Monarch crews, we are very much looking forward to seeing a good number of you - starting from Thursday - over the coming weeks at our assessment days and simulator sessions along with the other "non Monarch" applicants. All applicants will be treated identically.
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 14:06
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Excellent post and excellent ‘nom de plume’, G-DAJB!
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 14:48
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Not wishing to drift off the original thread but as money and pension features quite a lot I'd strongly advise that you keep an eye on your annual and lifetime tax allowance or you could get clobbered big time.

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