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Virgin Atlantic FO payscale

Old 15th Jul 2017, 06:50
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Virgin Atlantic FO payscale

Hey folks,

I know year 1 is 69K but what is the payscale for the first 6/7 years?

Thanks a lot in advance
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 14:22
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Year 6 64,285 + 15,996 flying pay
Year 7 65,892 + 15,996 flying pay
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 17:39
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so basically....

better than BA on a per flying hour basis

(VS - 750hr/yr, BA - 898/yr)
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 19:18
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As a LTC at a loco making 120k gross- how many years would it take to get back to that salary in VS (or BA for that matter) not including the fact I know they both have far superior 'packages' including pension and other perks. Just wondering how long it'd take to have that much in the bank each month again and how long if at all would it take to break even bearing in mind I'm mid 30's??
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 19:30
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In BA it will take you 19 years to get to that figure and that's assuming command at some point, if your a life long F/O then make it 34 (Short haul pay scales, long haul might knock a few years off that but you are unlikely to get a long haul command before 19 years anyway). Money is no longer the reason for joining BA or Virgin.
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 19:58
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If money isn't the reason for joining BA or VS, what is the reason?

Is it crippling fatigue and constant jet lag? That's why I left anyway, not to mention the aeons to command....

And how long will it take to get the money back if you leave a 120,000 job? Answer: you never will. It's not just lost wages, it's the lost investment compounding time for all those extra years of money. And that is potentially huge.
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 20:18
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Does anyone know if Virgin will consider non type rated FOs onto any of their fleets in the near future?
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Old 23rd Jul 2017, 20:51
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Originally Posted by VJW View Post
As a LTC at a loco making 120k gross- how many years would it take to get back to that salary in VS (or BA for that matter) not including the fact I know they both have far superior 'packages' including pension and other perks. Just wondering how long it'd take to have that much in the bank each month again and how long if at all would it take to break even bearing in mind I'm mid 30's??
in VS probably around 15 years, depending on how long it takes to get command (we've a retirement bubble approaching so current time scales will be dropping)

As has been said if you are chasing money then a Loco captain/LTC will earn more money over a career. However there is lots to take into account. VS most likely has a better pension, but also (and of course this is very much personal preference) better lifestyle. I find the long haul lifestyle a lot more pleasant then short haul loco's. But I don't have a major issue with jet lag and find the roster much more lifestyle friendly! We have at least 10 days if not more off a month and yes we are way for 2/3 days but then are off for 2/3 days after. I have more time at home now, and more rested/enjoyable time then I ever did with short haul. I couldn't work in short haul for 30 years, it would kill me! I like having a few mini-holidays a month with days off inbetween then working 5/6 days in a row with long hours and only a few days off to recover before starting again.
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Old 24th Jul 2017, 13:39
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Originally Posted by Job Knockey View Post
If money isn't the reason for joining BA or VS, what is the reason?

Is it crippling fatigue and constant jet lag? That's why I left anyway, not to mention the aeons to command....

And how long will it take to get the money back if you leave a 120,000 job? Answer: you never will. It's not just lost wages, it's the lost investment compounding time for all those extra years of money. And that is potentially huge.
Which one of the two did you work for Job Knockey?
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Old 24th Jul 2017, 20:11
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I have never worked at British Airways.
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Old 31st Jul 2017, 09:49
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I'm in the same boat, lowcost Capt made 135k eur everything included last year, but but really fed up with the lowcost job and lifestyle. I thought about applying to virgin, would it make sense being 31 years old and joining as FO? Is the lifestyle really that much better to take this big pay cut? Any Advice?
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Old 31st Jul 2017, 14:56
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Not related to VS but 20 years ago, I was a Training Captain on B737 for a U.K. Charter airline. Joined BA as a 747FO, aged 42. 14 years to LHS Airbus. 19 years to LHS 787. (Could have got LGW SH command much earlier.)

OK, the initial pay cut was very painful but I have no regrets at all. IIRC, my basic went from 53K to 30K. Now it's 156K, but as others have said, it's not all about the money. My life-style improved no-end, the family loved the staff-travel perks and I generally felt that I had more time at home and felt better when I was there.

Difficult to give advice based on my experience as the world has moved on and who knows what the next 20 years will look like? Anyway, it worked for me and good luck to you, whatever you decide.

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Old 31st Jul 2017, 15:13
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I'm very interested in Virgin !
Only thing that bothers me is what the future will be like without Branson?
Do guys and gals natter about it in the crew room etc..

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Old 1st Aug 2017, 14:12
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Whether your interested or not. It depends whether they want you. I've been applying for years.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 22:00
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How many years do the increments continue for at VS?
And are the capt pay scales from PPJN accurate? Is yr 1 capt 113k +15k flight pay or 113 total?
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 10:54
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 13:40
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Originally Posted by Nil further View Post
A bog standard 15 yr CPT at easyjet will have a P60 of somewhere around 130k if no employee pension contribution.

I paid 21% of my salary last year (company goes 7%) my P60 shows 116k
Very pleased for you, but not exactly what was asked.
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Old 4th Sep 2017, 10:39
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Any Virgin employees willing to give an honest opinion of the job ?
Is it all as good as it seems ?
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Old 4th Sep 2017, 11:29
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Originally Posted by fast cruiser View Post
Year 6 64,285 + 15,996 flying pay
Year 7 65,892 + 15,996 flying pay
So just to clarify the payscale then. Does the year 1 figure of 69K include flight pay?
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Old 4th Sep 2017, 11:53
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Year One FO pay is 71162, consisting of 55166 basic and 15996 flying pay.
Year 2 - 74240
Year 3 - 75699
Year 4 - 77182
Year 5 - 78712
Year 6 - 80281
Flying Pay remains fixed at 15996 every year.

Honest opinion of the place? I like it and consider myself lucky to be here. I fly with good people on decent routes in good aircraft. We are well remunerated and our pension is the best in the industry. Time to command is fair for a seniority-based airline.
There are mumbles and moans as in any airline but on balance it's a good place to work. You will obviously get varying opinions but that's mine.
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