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I understand you will follow me anywhere. If you ever tried to get a job at airbaltic - too bad the unsuccessful assesment left such a huge impact to your ego. But hey - you wouldn't like flying here anyway, so maybe the company was right in not hiring for any position whatsoever.
Describe please your assessment to see if we had the same one. Don't spare the details, it will make the difference. Because I believe that you, and people like you, had a special treatment. That special treatment was the reason to invite you at the first place despite you didn't meet the entry requirements. With your other accounts you admit that Let410, Beechcraft 1900, Js31, piston trainers, pilots were hired. These aircrafts are not CS25, FMS as per the requirements. Another user, wrote that he was fired just before the TR to be replaced with someone of your kind.
A failed assessments is not a big deal. I feel lucky that I was failed and got a better job later. What is annoying is to invite people that will be failed in favor of others who managed to be invited without meeting the requirements and would be hired no matter what. More annoying is to have here a person of that breed making lectures. With multiple accounts, something which reflects the fraudy ways you use
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There is no tampere base unfortunately, only in name. No crews are based in tampere I assume for exactly that reason to keep the pay and conditions the same. All flights from tampere are operated by RIX based crew on 4 or 5 days rotations
What's the catch there, do they ask to pay an overpriced TR to hire you? I think they are based in Estonia
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Some AirBaltic F/O left the company after a few months of employment and they paid the bond for a TR which is not helpful
If you want a helpful TR, get an A320 or B737 rating. Don't pay for a CRJ rating.
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I don't know if the people you attack with your different accounts had an assessment. I can speak for my case. When I was assessed I had more than 2000 hours on an proper CS 25 airliner with FMS and EFIS . That time market was still bad so I booked a sim session for a DA42 sim in Germany before the assessment. It didn't help at all. The assessment was full of tricks. Non standard ones. For the record I had a successful assessment few years ago and another one few months ago.
Describe please your assessment to see if we had the same one. Don't spare the details, it will make the difference. Because I believe that you, and people like you, had a special treatment. That special treatment was the reason to invite you at the first place despite you didn't meet the entry requirements. With your other accounts you admit that Let410, Beechcraft 1900, Js31, piston trainers, pilots were hired. These aircrafts are not CS25, FMS as per the requirements. Another user, wrote that he was fired just before the TR to be replaced with someone of your kind.
A failed assessments is not a big deal. I feel lucky that I was failed and got a better job later. What is annoying is to invite people that will be failed in favor of others who managed to be invited without meeting the requirements and would be hired no matter what. More annoying is to have here a person of that breed making lectures. With multiple accounts, something which reflects the fraudy ways you use
Describe please your assessment to see if we had the same one. Don't spare the details, it will make the difference. Because I believe that you, and people like you, had a special treatment. That special treatment was the reason to invite you at the first place despite you didn't meet the entry requirements. With your other accounts you admit that Let410, Beechcraft 1900, Js31, piston trainers, pilots were hired. These aircrafts are not CS25, FMS as per the requirements. Another user, wrote that he was fired just before the TR to be replaced with someone of your kind.
A failed assessments is not a big deal. I feel lucky that I was failed and got a better job later. What is annoying is to invite people that will be failed in favor of others who managed to be invited without meeting the requirements and would be hired no matter what. More annoying is to have here a person of that breed making lectures. With multiple accounts, something which reflects the fraudy ways you use
airBaltic is my first company, coming straight from their Pilot Academy, I'm relatively new to the industry, company and A220, so I just stumbled upon this forum and saw ppl talking nonsense about the company that I like a lot. It's got its flaws, but I mean, MAFIA? I think last year alone they've hired around 150(?) new pilots, and to believe they're all "friends" of someone in the office creating multiple accounts - that's quite a serious conspiracy.
Anyway - no offense to anyone, I hope you're really loving your jobs wherever you work.
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But why have you decided that I am using different accounts? A220 is my first type, so I actually had to google Let410, Beechcraft 1900, Js31 to understand your reference.
airBaltic is my first company, coming straight from their Pilot Academy, I'm relatively new to the industry, company and A220, so I just stumbled upon this forum and saw ppl talking nonsense about the company that I like a lot. It's got its flaws, but I mean, MAFIA? I think last year alone they've hired around 150(?) new pilots, and to believe they're all "friends" of someone in the office creating multiple accounts - that's quite a serious conspiracy.
Anyway - no offense to anyone, I hope you're really loving your jobs wherever you work.
airBaltic is my first company, coming straight from their Pilot Academy, I'm relatively new to the industry, company and A220, so I just stumbled upon this forum and saw ppl talking nonsense about the company that I like a lot. It's got its flaws, but I mean, MAFIA? I think last year alone they've hired around 150(?) new pilots, and to believe they're all "friends" of someone in the office creating multiple accounts - that's quite a serious conspiracy.
Anyway - no offense to anyone, I hope you're really loving your jobs wherever you work.
You post with a newly created account and you participate in topics like the nepotism one where waylandershade and oksup were posting and you keep the same style of writing
Lets take the assumption that you are not the same person (I really doubt)
Since you got in trouble to google the L410, B1900, Js31 you saw that these aircrafts are not CS25 neither equipped with FMS. According with initial requirements, candidates should have hours on CS25, FMS aircraft. Do you have any explanations why people who didn’t meet the requirements were invited to assessment and got hired? I don’t think any HR department is happy to receive applications from candidates who don’t fulfill entry requirements.
You seem to have done your homework, don’t reply like oksup or waylandershade (both with background in Czech Republic, L410 pilots and newly hired in airbaltic but not the same person as they claimed!!!!) who were saying that they can only speak for themselves and don’t know such cases
And yes I love my job as it pays good and I can commute. Luckily I didn’t pass to the airbaltic with the 3 years, 36000 bond.
Saying of commuting… In this very topic you posted that you can commute if working for ab and you were quickly proven wrong by other posters. Can someone who lives in Netherlands not rent a house in Riga? Can you explain why you lied?
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Originally Posted by Intrance;[url=tel:11526415
11526415[/url]]Xfly pay (significantly) less than airBaltic, are in significant financial trouble and the CRJ is a bit of a dying breed in Europe. There are probably more A220s flying around Europe than CRJs. At Vista you would still need a new rating for pretty much everything in their fleet except the old CL850s.
If you want a helpful TR, get an A320 or B737 rating. Don't pay for a CRJ rating.
If you want a helpful TR, get an A320 or B737 rating. Don't pay for a CRJ rating.
The only use I found in A220 TR is in Quantas. In Europe only AF and Swis are using it. You don’t need a TR, but level 6 in French or
Zurich accent to join.
I agree that the most helpful ratings are the A320 and B737
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I've been flying at airBaltic for more than a year and I really enjoy a lot of parts of it, so here's a bit of an extended version of my experience:
In the realm of crew planning, BT has a diverse range of destinations, from nearby cities to far-flung gems like Dubai and the Canary Islands. It's like picking from a buffet every month when bidding for flight, but of course - you will not fly all of your favourite flights every day. The rule is to satisfy 60-70% of each pilots wishes, and for me works out pretty well. The more contentious thing our wet lease-out operations in Oslo, Düsseldorf, Zurich, and our very own base stations in Tampere, Tallinn and Vilnius. Many of our pilots choose to commute directly to these stations from their homes across Europe. I was just flying as a safety pilot for a new SFO's first line training flights - a very experienced captain from Finland, he said he will not even consider renting in Riga - he will commute to outstations. So it’s really up to you to pick your lifestyle and roster
Treatment colleagues, general mood:
Regardless of anything, those who are dissatisfied tend to be more vocal, while those who genuinely enjoy their experiences often prefer the tranquility of cruising at FL360, while sipping their coffee
Which is a good thing, I guess, hence the reason this forum might lean toward negative opinions as a result. However, when it comes to life at our airline, BT, I'd like to emphasize that for me it's, in fact, quite pleasant. Communication here is transparent and flows both vertically and horizontally. The Chief Pilot's office is always open, encouraging an open dialogue. Adhering to standardised procedures, training, and simulator sessions is like a must in the company, so basically all are treated equally, and to be honest, for me this consistency makes it very transparent and comprehensible. In the mean time you ahve to know your stuff, be prepared, study, etc. Then again, any form of rude or aggressive behavior, whether directed towards cabin crew, operations, or colleagues is totally rejected. In my experience, I've seen cases where a few pilots were exceptionally rude or disrespectful, and the airline responded (in my opinion) appropriately. We have a lot of young captains who’ve been at airBaltic for several years, so the mood in the cockpit is the mood you choose to set
The CP upgrade is not just a claim, if you apply as an SFO you will have a chance to upgrade soon. Just do the math yourself - BT will have 50 aircraft soon, that means roughly around 250 captains, now we maybe have around 190 (+/- 10), AND they are working summer schedules of 80-90BH already. The other thing is - the Chief pilots have been very open about not wanting “Direct entry” Captains on the A220. So going through the SFO option basically is the fast track.
Apologies for the lengthy essay, but I wanted to provide a more balanced perspective amidst the prevailing negative sentiments, because I really like airBaltic from a lot pf perspective, and I think a lot of colleagues would agree.
Ad good luck with your assessment!
In the realm of crew planning, BT has a diverse range of destinations, from nearby cities to far-flung gems like Dubai and the Canary Islands. It's like picking from a buffet every month when bidding for flight, but of course - you will not fly all of your favourite flights every day. The rule is to satisfy 60-70% of each pilots wishes, and for me works out pretty well. The more contentious thing our wet lease-out operations in Oslo, Düsseldorf, Zurich, and our very own base stations in Tampere, Tallinn and Vilnius. Many of our pilots choose to commute directly to these stations from their homes across Europe. I was just flying as a safety pilot for a new SFO's first line training flights - a very experienced captain from Finland, he said he will not even consider renting in Riga - he will commute to outstations. So it’s really up to you to pick your lifestyle and roster
Treatment colleagues, general mood:
Regardless of anything, those who are dissatisfied tend to be more vocal, while those who genuinely enjoy their experiences often prefer the tranquility of cruising at FL360, while sipping their coffee
Which is a good thing, I guess, hence the reason this forum might lean toward negative opinions as a result. However, when it comes to life at our airline, BT, I'd like to emphasize that for me it's, in fact, quite pleasant. Communication here is transparent and flows both vertically and horizontally. The Chief Pilot's office is always open, encouraging an open dialogue. Adhering to standardised procedures, training, and simulator sessions is like a must in the company, so basically all are treated equally, and to be honest, for me this consistency makes it very transparent and comprehensible. In the mean time you ahve to know your stuff, be prepared, study, etc. Then again, any form of rude or aggressive behavior, whether directed towards cabin crew, operations, or colleagues is totally rejected. In my experience, I've seen cases where a few pilots were exceptionally rude or disrespectful, and the airline responded (in my opinion) appropriately. We have a lot of young captains who’ve been at airBaltic for several years, so the mood in the cockpit is the mood you choose to set The CP upgrade is not just a claim, if you apply as an SFO you will have a chance to upgrade soon. Just do the math yourself - BT will have 50 aircraft soon, that means roughly around 250 captains, now we maybe have around 190 (+/- 10), AND they are working summer schedules of 80-90BH already. The other thing is - the Chief pilots have been very open about not wanting “Direct entry” Captains on the A220. So going through the SFO option basically is the fast track.
Apologies for the lengthy essay, but I wanted to provide a more balanced perspective amidst the prevailing negative sentiments, because I really like airBaltic from a lot pf perspective, and I think a lot of colleagues would agree.
Ad good luck with your assessment!
Pilots that joined in 2023 are paying the bond to leave.
At least the ones who had some serious background and are employable. And of course had money from the previous jobs to pay the bond
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Those figures are token from Airbaltic. Its a very good salary.
https://pilotcareer.org/index.php/wiki/air-baltic/First Officer:
€ 49.200 – 58.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience First Officers can expect a net salary of € 4.000 – 5.500 / month.
During the inital 300h the pay is € 1.200 net / month.
Captain:
€ 112.800 – 130.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience Captains can expect a net salary of € 7.000 – 8.000 / month.
https://pilotcareer.org/index.php/wiki/air-baltic/First Officer:
€ 49.200 – 58.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience First Officers can expect a net salary of € 4.000 – 5.500 / month.
During the inital 300h the pay is € 1.200 net / month.
Captain:
€ 112.800 – 130.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience Captains can expect a net salary of € 7.000 – 8.000 / month.
Those figures are token from Airbaltic. Its a very good salary.
https://pilotcareer.org/index.php/wiki/air-baltic/First Officer:
€ 49.200 – 58.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience First Officers can expect a net salary of € 4.000 – 5.500 / month.
During the inital 300h the pay is € 1.200 net / month.
Captain:
€ 112.800 – 130.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience Captains can expect a net salary of € 7.000 – 8.000 / month.
https://pilotcareer.org/index.php/wiki/air-baltic/First Officer:
€ 49.200 – 58.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience First Officers can expect a net salary of € 4.000 – 5.500 / month.
During the inital 300h the pay is € 1.200 net / month.
Captain:
€ 112.800 – 130.800 / year gross
Based on 80h / month and experience Captains can expect a net salary of € 7.000 – 8.000 / month.
That’s it, believe it or not. There are a lot of D pilots willing to take it. D could be for dumb or desperate. You can also add the hobbyists instagram pilots, could include them in dumb category
As mentioned earlier pilots who were hired in 2023 left the company after paying the bond. That was the desperate D
As mentioned earlier pilots who were hired in 2023 left the company after paying the bond. That was the desperate D
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Numbers that XMW6 shared is corresponding to the correct numbers. Gross and net is different. I have only for FOs. This is guaranteed basic pay. You will get net amount to your bank account since it is local contract.
FO1 4100 gross (2815 net)
FO2 4500 gross (3085 net)
FO3 4900 gross (3370 net)
FO1 4100 gross (2815 net)
FO2 4500 gross (3085 net)
FO3 4900 gross (3370 net)
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Expect to pay 1 to 1.5k with utilities for a simple furnished flat and 500 for food. Few years ago utility bills were 400-700 a month during winter. Riga is expensive. Food and medicine can be twice of what you pay in some western EU countries.
