Smartlynx
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?
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Popcorn out to see what that new offer is. Prepared to be underwhelmed though.
Join Date: Oct 2018
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At the end it is combination of money and treatment of pilot received. If you ask me latter is a bigger problem. But management is so out of their mind that they even claimed hotel and transportation provided as a benefit and they were adding cost of hotel and travel to their yearly net fee calculation to prove they pay good to pilots. It is just ridiculous. They tried about lower salaries this year and actually it worked. They started the negotiations so low that later when they make some improvements people psychologically thought oh they are offering better. Offer might look better on paper but another problem is this money they offer just before income tax and social premiums (retirement funds) paid. Obviously many of the pilots do not pay either. Maybe it is ok for older Captains but i cant imagine young FO is not contributing its retirement.
Join Date: Oct 2022
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hey guys, whats the quality of training in slx and it's reputation at other airlines. Do ex-slx pilots get discriminated against at job applications for other airlines, despite fulfilling the hour requirements? (possibly due to poor training or poor SOPs)
like for example if 2 a320 rated FO's apply with 3000tt to EK , one from vueling and one from slx , would the vueling guy be preferred due to it's brand and reputation over slx?
like for example if 2 a320 rated FO's apply with 3000tt to EK , one from vueling and one from slx , would the vueling guy be preferred due to it's brand and reputation over slx?
Join Date: May 2016
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Know of few guys who got job in AF, EZY and EK from Slx recently. I myself used to work for them and after 1.5 years in a national carrier in Central Asia, now got a job for the French flag carrier.
At the end of the day, it is more about personal investment and standards rather than what's on your CV which is evaluated, imo
At the end of the day, it is more about personal investment and standards rather than what's on your CV which is evaluated, imo
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Same ****, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.
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Currently Avion express looks better than Smartlynx. With SLX expect to experience the Nigeria nightmare operation for Air Peace with peanuts income in Lagos during winter.
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Don't forget
Don't forget the way they mock staff, offering improvements like more off days and rostering sims and exams after those. Or that they proclaim the travel as a perk, and pilots "enjoy" 20 hours travels for 500 km journeys. It's other example of their idea of better terms.
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Join Date: Jan 2018
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Same ****, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Not at all. They keep changing contracts more and more, but in the end they only reduced the money for the FOs and increased for the captains. And they offered as an improvement more days at home, but, they send home the staff in very long journeys (to save very little money), using all kind of transports (bus, train, planes...) and then they roster activities after that are not compatible with rest time. They seem to not be aware of the luggage that it is required with so long stays at bases because they make that kind of arrangements (multiple changes of vehicles). That-s just an example of how the company is improving the terms.
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Friend, I'm coming close to retirement so don't think I'm harsh but some people who are a bit unlucky or maybe at the bottom of the skills set will do anything to fly. They will fill the jobs. Many will use the opportunity to improve themselves and that is great but some will sit there not gaining much skill, not being touched by any decent airline and a hazard if they are. I have seen it firsthand. Apologies to those of you who just yearn to fly but that is the reality. There is a disease at the heart of our industry. Fly safe.
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Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?
*UPL limit per
calendar year (UPL
days, reflected as part of
consecutive days free
from duty 1.13 do not
count towards the limit
*UPL limit per
calendar year (UPL
days, reflected as part of
consecutive days free
from duty 1.13 do not
count towards the limit
Join Date: Oct 2018
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High season (7 months between April-October) no UPL. Low season (November-March) they could assign you up to 90 days UPL. So you will not be paid during this period. Unless they assign you to work during low season you might end up having less UPL, or volunteer to go Nigeria. But for sure you will get some UPLs.
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For a while no message in the group. How is the prospect for the future? Has things improved comparing to 2022 (in terms of treatment to the pilots but not money)? If you happen to join now can you pre-agreed some bases to secure it if you live close by on this base? I heard it was the case in the past that they were sending away a German pilots who is living in Nuremberg while they were having Nuremberg base or Belgian guy living in Belgium out of Brussels base? Is that still the case or they started to make more logical choice in terms of base selection?