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Easyjet DEP recruitment

Old 3rd Sep 2015, 20:43
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All complete sh!t apart from VCE. Bon voyage.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 21:37
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Does anyone actually know what the cost of the type rating is?
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 08:06
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Easyjet DEP recruitment

Why does a company in such rude health need to ask experienced pilots to pay for a TR? This really pi$$es me off!

A proper 2/3 year non contributing bond for experienced guys would yield many high quality applicants imo.

I won't apply because I can't afford it, pure and simple.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 09:01
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Woah 38k for the type rating?!?! are you sure?? ......nice timing with Easy upping their estimated profit for this year!!!
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 09:27
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And herein is part of the reason why they are recording record profits. Also the reason why they charge that much for type ratings? Because starry eyed wannabes are prepared to pay it, pure and simple, they are queuing up to pay Easyjet the money.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 09:37
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Wow, that much for the rating. Seriously?

How are they getting non-rated DECs? Trawling the newspapers for lottery winners?
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 09:38
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The type rating cost for DEC/DEFO is 20-25k upfront. Still a piss take when they're predicting 700m profit. A bond or monthly salary deduction would be much fairer, especially as they also only pay you 90% salary for the first six months... Approx. another 5k for a Skipper! Shame
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 11:07
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Id be expecting a share in the company for that kind of money! 38K is way too much for a type rating.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 12:47
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Easyjet DEP recruitment

In the current climate they may need to re adjust their thinking with regard to charging for a type rating.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 13:09
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I doubt it, there is an unlimited queue of suckers clammering to give us their money.
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Old 4th Sep 2015, 20:49
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Easyjet DEP recruitment

38k wtf are they on that's a p1$$ take and shameful. I recently chatted to a new Ryanair FO at EMA the day before his induction and he was intending sleeping in his car for a week. FR are selling that they are trying to improve service etc - how about starting to look after their Staff for once rather than the continuos desire for more profit and better than Easyjet at any cost 😞😞
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Old 5th Sep 2015, 10:09
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When was the last NTR FO recruitment drive? 2013, or was there another since?
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Old 7th Sep 2015, 09:46
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Have any NTR DEC applicants been offered a position yet?

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Old 7th Sep 2015, 18:05
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People i know have declined the crap contract when they have been send out and after careful reading. Compared to the likes of Wizz there is only little difference. Even Vueling in BCN pays long-term much more as a Skipper!

E.g, Vueling offers per block hour 63EUR up to 106EUR (>75h per month) plus diary of 100 EUR per day!! Even when you consider a less basic salary it will significantly offset the higher basic pay in easyJet!!

Assuming you fly 850h in Vueling (in EZY youll work your ass OFF as well), and fly 100h over the 75h threshold and 120 day per year (will be more) thats already a uplift of 70t! Even in year one it would outperform the basic easyJet salary plus sector pay.

EZY offers NO loyality bonus, NO pensions, holidays of just 25 days per year, crap uniforms, no sick pay, FRV 123 and no contractual agreement to go for better paid bases. What a shame ...

Only LGW T&C are the same like the old contracts, thanks to BALPA. TheHence a lot of Monarch guy are queuing up for it. But forget the other bases!!The questions is for how long???

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Old 7th Sep 2015, 19:12
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Easyjet has a very good training set up & a fineSOP structure which protects the weaker candidates.

They will be over the moon with more & more Captains & Fo's leaving as they have a huge list of cheap replacements chomping at the bit to land a job whatever the conditions which they will do just as well.

The industry is collapsing for pilots . The days of it being perceived as a profession are long gone & anyone thinking they're leaving easy to the promised land are going to get a shock.

The terms & conditions at ALL airlines are being eroded . They are all chasing each other to compete with lower & lower conditions.

Regulators FTL's are now becoming more & more stretched & a career is now not feasible full time.

All you guys who payed to get to the front of the queue are going to be faced with greater & greater costs to stay there ! You can rent your big cars & get ever increasing mortgages to make you feel you're good old aviators but you're just McPilots kidding yourselves !

12 months left for me , can't wait !!!!!!!
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 05:48
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Lawro, you lucky bugger. Wish I had 12 months left. Instead I have about 30 years left (at the moment. This is before the government in 10 years' start b*ggering around with the retirement age again).

Picking up your point, there was an article in the FT yesterday. Some guy was writing that when he bought his house, he was a university lecturer on a salary equivalent to 40,000 today. Now, the area he lives in London is characterised by houses (and flats) with 7 figure price tags, beyond the reach of even the relatively well paid.

Us pilots fall into the "relatively well paid" category. Yes, our contracts these days are nothing like the contracts of old. More's the pity. However, take an F/O at Eastern, who's probably on about 30K. That still puts him/her in the top 20-25% percentile. CityFlyer, about 43K. Top 15 percentile. Jet2, 50K.

What's gone wrong in the meantime is the transfer of wealth from the factory floor to the boardroom. Executive pay is now 183 times more than the lowest paid people, up from about 160 times 3 years ago.

In all that time, the property price inflation in the UK has exacerbated the problem, drawing disposable income away from the workers.

What I'm saying is that this industry is no different to any other industry. And, in summary... we're all f**ked.

PS take your pension early before the stock market crashes, mate!
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 17:33
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WX man, it's cheaper to pay the executive 183 times the pay of the ordinary worker than raising all the workers pay accordingly.

Interrestingly enough, the executive himself is slashing the payment to workers, thereby saving the company a lot of money, and in the meantime gets a salaryraise which is nothing compared to the saved expenses.

We've fostered a generation of selfish young people who think they're the centre of the universe who think they can handle themselves and doesn't need to be part of a group while negotiating salaries... Problem is, that kind of people get screwed over without even recognizing it, while they still believe in the "everyone for himself" slogan being so much published by liberalists these days.

The only type of people that gain on this, are the stockholders, which annoyingly enough are even the worker themselves, (even those that now complain about the "young blood" have stocks, and an conflicting interrest in the matter) and ofcourse the executives.
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Old 13th Sep 2015, 17:59
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I am young, a product of a training school and have a loan. So, in summary, the subject of Lluccifer's ire.

In the interest of balance and perspective, here is my situation:
Yes I do have a loan, no it doesn't need renegotiating. I am on a good easyJet UK contract. This is isn't unusual or hard to come by, but the normal in the UK. Unfortunately I'll concede that easyJet has a long list of faults and some of the European contracts leave a lot to be desired.

With regards to gaining experience and going no where, myself and circa 300 easyJet FOs have/are joined/joining BA because we have the requisite experience.

Ultimately joining easyJet or becoming a 'cadet' is an individual choice, but I spent my whole time training reading posts on PPRuNe slating my chosen route and telling me that I'd end up jobless with a huge loan. It hasn't happened and I don't consider myself an anomaly. Whilst I'm not saying jump headlong into it all consider that the people who are happy in their jobs don't generally bother with PPRuNe and people who have issues bravely do so from behind a veil of anonymity. Consider all the options, what you really want and what is right for you and ask the right people for advice.
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Old 14th Sep 2015, 04:43
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Apparently no more interviews for LGW DEC @ Easy this year ?
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Old 14th Sep 2015, 23:51
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WOnderbus you miss the point . It's not about being jobless , the point is that ever increasing numbers of people who want to pay to get to the front of the queue are changing the job completely.

The industry has now become based upon stumping up cash . The employers from easy to Ryan & BA are filling their boots with people eager to clamber over the guy ahead of him ready to accept lower pay & conditions , it's happening at every airline.

Why are BA taking on so many low hour guys right now ? Could it be similar to the large intake of cabin crew over the last 8 years , busting the unions & obliterating the decent contracts ? You chat to many of the BA crew I used to work with about pay & conditions & how they are now in comparison to 10 years ago.

CTC pumping out many many more this year & they're all eyeing up your job & are willing to do it for less than you !
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