Ryanair in Copenhagen ... or not
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Michael O'Leary biggest mistake
Michael O'Leary biggest mistake was to ignore the Danish "Jante Lov" (unwritten law about how to behave among Danes).
The law is described in the link provided by justinabeavor, but to sum it up its all about being humble and being able to access how things are done in a new place once you get there, rather then just stumbling in trying to change the way things are done. Michael O'Leary failed miserably....
When in Rome do like the Romans, and when in Denmark do like the Danes!
Denmark is a well organized country, and luckily we can afford living without having to live by Michael O'Leary rules. He won't be missed.
Last but not least, the outcome of this dispute might end up being the beginning of the end for the Ryanair way of doing business. Other unions in other EU countries are also looking into the options used by the danish unions.
The law is described in the link provided by justinabeavor, but to sum it up its all about being humble and being able to access how things are done in a new place once you get there, rather then just stumbling in trying to change the way things are done. Michael O'Leary failed miserably....
When in Rome do like the Romans, and when in Denmark do like the Danes!
Denmark is a well organized country, and luckily we can afford living without having to live by Michael O'Leary rules. He won't be missed.
Last but not least, the outcome of this dispute might end up being the beginning of the end for the Ryanair way of doing business. Other unions in other EU countries are also looking into the options used by the danish unions.
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Denmark is a well organized country, and luckily we can afford living without having to live by Michael O'Leary rules. He won't be missed.
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He'll always have the last laugh though.........
Ryanair to close Billund base on July 17 - ch-aviation.com
Ryanair to close Billund base on July 17 - ch-aviation.com
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MOL should be congratulated for not letting the Unions dictate how he pays HIS staff, wait a moment though! this is the same union that is stopping the NAS guys getting food ration at Christmas as they are part time? MOLs biggest mistake was not making Maggie Thatcher head of HR..
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MOL should be congratulated for not letting the Unions dictate how he pays HIS staff
After all, it is MOL himself who flies 70+million people around Europe every year so he ought to be recompensed royally....
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Feel for the majority of Danish (Scandi) pilots who have been waiting for a CPH base for years.
Now they got it and then have their local unions royally kick them in the b@@ls.
Just in case they missed the first ball they got both by forcing more Danes to move out of the BLL base.
Did the unions ever consult with the Danish pilots who they were affecting doubt it.
If they had they may have been told;
5 on 4 off roster, home every night with wife and kids, no crappy night flights, and living at home.
Hmmm let me think...........
Long term pain for most Danes for short term gain for the Unions!
Now they got it and then have their local unions royally kick them in the b@@ls.
Just in case they missed the first ball they got both by forcing more Danes to move out of the BLL base.
Did the unions ever consult with the Danish pilots who they were affecting doubt it.
If they had they may have been told;
5 on 4 off roster, home every night with wife and kids, no crappy night flights, and living at home.
Hmmm let me think...........
Long term pain for most Danes for short term gain for the Unions!
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The whole idea of a trade union is to improve conditions for the collective workforce, union members or not..The vast majority will fail to see how the closing of two bases and the loss of jobs and home bases can be regarded as a success..How about the Spanish, German and Italian unions, are they insisting on the same " local employment rights" or is this a case of protectionism by the Scandi Unions, having failed so miserably with the NAS operations they felt they would pick on an easier target? This is akin to the BA cabin crew strike that simply left large numbers of people with periods of no pay and eventually no staff travel. Not everyone is a fan of MOL, but at least he is consistent , of course we will get a tirade of " at what cost to human dignity, slave pilots, etc etc",, complete nonsense, if people don't like it they can leave to the apparently " greener grass" which often turns out to be a field of weeds.. as demonstrated by the " reflux " of the guys now returning to RYR.. As observed by the previous poster , did the unions actually consult the staff or simply bully the staff before throwing their spears in the air ..As for the other comment " lets kick the Prxck out of the rest of Europe" this just hows how pathetic and narrow minded and misguided a few on this forum are.. exactly where would you propose to employ the redundant 1000"s .. Oh, yes we all suddenly forgot anyone can work in the sandpits or spit holes in China, its coming back is the problem..
This article sums up the general feeling about this:
Danish Labor Unions Shut Down Ryanair?s Bases in Denmark | Flight Chic
This article sums up the general feeling about this:
Danish Labor Unions Shut Down Ryanair?s Bases in Denmark | Flight Chic
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NAS has a collective agreement with its pilots in all of Scandinavia. Full term, perm employed. As for the rest of your comments, yes it is really true that pilots are sometimes their own worst enemies
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I am the first one to sympathize with the poor crew who have been forced out of CPH and BLL. They are humans too and shouldn't be disregarded. Ironically they're probably the least enthusiastic about the union's fight for fairer terms and conditions. Is Ryanair doing anything to assist them? Should they? The answer to those two questions gives and indication how much they really care about their employees.
In establishing a level playing field for competition, it must be seen as a success for a Danish unions to ensure that Danish labour laws cannot be evaded. Akin to 'flag of convenience' in shipping.
Probably a cultural thing. The Scandinavian countries have traditionally had very strong unions.
It's not only the pilots. The cabin crew shall be remembered too, they're the ones who really cannot make ends meet. If you've spent any time in Ryanair you'll find there is plenty of well educated people but they're unfortunate to come from countries where the unemployment level is unsustainably high and they see no prospects at home. Owt is better than nowt.
The vast majority will fail to see how the closing of two bases and the loss of jobs and home bases can be regarded as a success
How about the Spanish, German and Italian unions, are they insisting on the same " local employment rights" or is this a case of protectionism by the Scandi Unions
Not everyone is a fan of MOL, but at least he is consistent , of course we will get a tirade of " at what cost to human dignity, slave pilots, etc etc",, complete nonsense, if people don't like it they can leave to the apparently " greener grass" which often turns out to be a field of weeds.
