easyJet DEC Gatwick?
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From what I've seen after over 10 years at EZY there's nothing arrogant about being a line driver or trainer there. Everyone goes to work, gets flogged, gets paid and goes home being grateful to have a job that isn't in danger of going down the tubes like other places.
Regarding blocking runways and the other crap thats exactly what it is. From a flying point of view it's leaps and bounds ahead of many other places and the standards are high. They have to be kept high if others are continually taking a shot at you. training is second to none at EZY.
Arrogance is more abundant in certain long haul legacy carriers I think.
Its not perfect but its a very very safe and professional place to work and will be here for a long time to come.
Regarding blocking runways and the other crap thats exactly what it is. From a flying point of view it's leaps and bounds ahead of many other places and the standards are high. They have to be kept high if others are continually taking a shot at you. training is second to none at EZY.
Arrogance is more abundant in certain long haul legacy carriers I think.
Its not perfect but its a very very safe and professional place to work and will be here for a long time to come.
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From: La Napoule
Flaps...
Some of the Command ready FO's are declining moves to LGW (and AMS)
because they have young families or other commitments and prefer to sit it out at their own base.
So they are not necessarily being bypassed if this was the decision they took having been offered the move.
Harsh but thats's the way it is....
Some of the Command ready FO's are declining moves to LGW (and AMS)
because they have young families or other commitments and prefer to sit it out at their own base.
So they are not necessarily being bypassed if this was the decision they took having been offered the move.
Harsh but thats's the way it is....
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From: Lgw
It will add to easyJet's experience levels & great for the industry to see these guys redeployed .
easy does not have a seniority list for this very reason , it has no obligation to promote its FO's as opposed to taking on highly experienced , quality candidates .
Ability is at the heart of easy's philosophy , promotion isn't an attendance course like SFO , it is great to see them sourcing the best quality candidates !
easy does not have a seniority list for this very reason , it has no obligation to promote its FO's as opposed to taking on highly experienced , quality candidates .
Ability is at the heart of easy's philosophy , promotion isn't an attendance course like SFO , it is great to see them sourcing the best quality candidates !
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From: Lgw
Undoubtably there will be some good quality candidates in the right hand seat , equally there are very good quality , proven commanders ready to go without the cost of command courses equally , the pass rate of the EasyJet command course , although very good , will not be 100% .
Those who wanted to pay to get to the front of the queue allowing airlines to take cheaper options for FO's will have to wait a little longer as airlines will hopefully take the cheaper options & allow good quality time served captains to move across into the left hand seat at Easyjet taking advantage of training & time served at other airlines !!
Good on you Easyjet !!
Those who wanted to pay to get to the front of the queue allowing airlines to take cheaper options for FO's will have to wait a little longer as airlines will hopefully take the cheaper options & allow good quality time served captains to move across into the left hand seat at Easyjet taking advantage of training & time served at other airlines !!
Good on you Easyjet !!
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From: ...
Loads of DEC's have turned out to be not so high-quality as they thought during selection. Bringing some very odd CRM and SOP interpretations to the company. Strangely this never seems to happen with internal command upgrades.
The only reason that easy is taking DEC's is lack of training capacity. As usual they messed up the numbers again. Still 120 command upgrades will take place for next summer.
The word on the street is that all places in Amsterdam have been filled internally.
The only reason that easy is taking DEC's is lack of training capacity. As usual they messed up the numbers again. Still 120 command upgrades will take place for next summer.
The word on the street is that all places in Amsterdam have been filled internally.
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From: The Wood
What's more, plenty of MON Capts (a huge amount) went through the 'pay to get in front' CTC training scheme - MON were one of the first and largest customers. I've flown with ex MON FOs who made the move to easy when they were let go by MON.
Is it really as many as 60?
Is it really as many as 60?
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From: Huh huh huh ... what was the question again?
Big demand for LHS at EZY this winter. BALPA closely monitoring that no command ready FO's willing and ready to take the vacancies will be disadvantaged. It's also a great opportunity for the Monarch DEC's imo.
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From: Put out to graze
BALPA newsletter from Friday:
It is therefore becoming more likely that a small number of DECs will be required. We have been assured however that they will be based at LGW, will not jump transfer lists and will be employed on the standard Captain's contract with no variation in terms
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From: London
WBF,
Quote:/ What's more, plenty of MON Capts (a huge amount) went through the 'pay to get in front' CTC training scheme - MON were one of the first and largest customers. I've flown with ex MON FOs who made the move to easy when they were let go by MON.
What are you talking about?, this statement hardly deserves a reply but I am at a loose end so what the hell.
I know two captains from MON that went to CTC, both are recent upgrades and neither will be applying to Easy as the don't meet the PIC requirements. Every other captain qualified many many many years before CTC were even in existence.
It seems like you are all being extremely disrespectful to these MON captains, somehow trying to suggest the are inferior pilots and their experiences at MON counts for nothing. These guys have a lot to offer any company even EasyJet it will come at Monarchs expense to lose them.
And another point, most people who enter EasyJet do so off the back of paid schemes, excepting lower T&Cs to gain an advantage over everyone else, so you will have to forgive me now if I don't cry in sympathy for you.
And the word inside MON is the number might be 130!!
Quote:/ What's more, plenty of MON Capts (a huge amount) went through the 'pay to get in front' CTC training scheme - MON were one of the first and largest customers. I've flown with ex MON FOs who made the move to easy when they were let go by MON.
What are you talking about?, this statement hardly deserves a reply but I am at a loose end so what the hell.
I know two captains from MON that went to CTC, both are recent upgrades and neither will be applying to Easy as the don't meet the PIC requirements. Every other captain qualified many many many years before CTC were even in existence.
It seems like you are all being extremely disrespectful to these MON captains, somehow trying to suggest the are inferior pilots and their experiences at MON counts for nothing. These guys have a lot to offer any company even EasyJet it will come at Monarchs expense to lose them.
And another point, most people who enter EasyJet do so off the back of paid schemes, excepting lower T&Cs to gain an advantage over everyone else, so you will have to forgive me now if I don't cry in sympathy for you.
And the word inside MON is the number might be 130!!
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From: The Wood
Clearly assimilation isn't your strong point. Where did I call MON pilots inferior? There are many, many more than that who trained at CTC - I KNOW THEM!
Easyjet pilots do not accept 'paid for' or lower Ts and Cs - no more than MON pilots have just accepted lower Ts and Cs. A starting salary with EZY is still about 20k a year more than at FLYBE! So what do you think of their pilots?
Whatever happens, I really hope you don't cone here with your feeling towards easyJet FOs. There's only one group with a sense of entitlement here and it isn't EZY FOs.
Easyjet pilots do not accept 'paid for' or lower Ts and Cs - no more than MON pilots have just accepted lower Ts and Cs. A starting salary with EZY is still about 20k a year more than at FLYBE! So what do you think of their pilots?
Whatever happens, I really hope you don't cone here with your feeling towards easyJet FOs. There's only one group with a sense of entitlement here and it isn't EZY FOs.
