DEP at Ryanair
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DEP at Ryanair
Thanks 16024! Nicely put.. Much appreciate the response. As for capt play, thank you too. But the threads of which you speak of are mainly a few years old. Mainly! And for the rest I went on what I was told in the interview. Anyway listen the up side is I have a job with a wage... When many don't or are contractors. So it could be worse. I don't think going back to FR is the place to be.... Just needed a reality check!!
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From: FUBAR
Agreed, having escaped from the "evil empire" I don't see any merit in going back. There is so much better available out there, but it doesn't seem you have found it ( just yet)
Stick with it & see how it goes & start making plans for a(nother) change before next Winter, but research the +'s & -'s a bit better this time around.
You have already made a positive first step, don't be in any doubt about that, nostalgia is a great thing, but you should never forget the dark side
of what you have left behind.
In my humble opinion
of course.
Stick with it & see how it goes & start making plans for a(nother) change before next Winter, but research the +'s & -'s a bit better this time around.
You have already made a positive first step, don't be in any doubt about that, nostalgia is a great thing, but you should never forget the dark side
of what you have left behind. In my humble opinion
of course.
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From: UK
Going back to an employer you chose to leave is seldom wise - they rarely change so much as to be worth a second chance, and if you were unhappy once, you'll be unhappier still second time around. The only appropriate time to go back, cap in hand, is if in desperation as a short-term solution to keep a roof over your head, but airlines recognise this is the case and that is why they only welcome pilots back when they too are desperate.
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From: Where the company needs me not where I want to be!
They will probably try to hire anyone with a licence to fill the holes of people leaving left right & centre, if there Moroccan then they will be happy to be based in the bases where VERY FEW people from europe want to be based.
Local contrats I guess would be offered which will be far below the EU Ryanair contracts which are well below what the job deserves and pays in other airlines.
Of course this is just my opinion and guess work based on nothing and is not to be taken as fact.
Local contrats I guess would be offered which will be far below the EU Ryanair contracts which are well below what the job deserves and pays in other airlines.
Of course this is just my opinion and guess work based on nothing and is not to be taken as fact.
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From: Every place but home
I heard back in a couple of days......... Asked to send my cv to SM who then rang me back in about 30 mins. Asked a load of questions and now just waiting to hear back again........ That's were I am at, at the moment..... Hope this helps
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From: Or-E-Gun, USA
Overworked, Underpaid and..........
In the end, I suppose that Ryan get's what they want: Minimally qualified hour builders who need 'a little more' of this or that to become seriously attractive candidates for openings at the 'real' airlines. I suspect that Ryan is banking on a cluster of entry-qualified FOs who can literally give up one or two more years to complete building a package of interest to the Real Air Carriers- where one can begin building a stable career. For some, perhaps the very young, it might be reasonable. For most others, it may be a coin flip. I wonder how many hours an entry-level Ryan contracting FO can log in one or two years. I guess the pilot's personal success also depends upon citizenship, potential citizenship and of course, where s/he really wants to build that long term career. With Ryan error? Probably not!
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From: Poland
Hours to command...
Does anybody know what is the minimum experience to get a command upgrade at RYR?
I mean are they taking into consideration only hours on Ryanair aircraft, on B737, on jets, CS-25?
Until now mostly 'freshmen' were hired, so internal upgrades could be offered after not less than 3 years at the company I guess. But how about more experienced but still low/no hrs on B737?
I mean are they taking into consideration only hours on Ryanair aircraft, on B737, on jets, CS-25?
Until now mostly 'freshmen' were hired, so internal upgrades could be offered after not less than 3 years at the company I guess. But how about more experienced but still low/no hrs on B737?
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From: Where the company needs me not where I want to be!
ipilot86
I think its 2900TT 500hours on Ryanair aircraft 1500Jet and 1 winter in Ryanair
I am an ex FR skipper so think thats about right but obviously could be wrong.
I think its 2900TT 500hours on Ryanair aircraft 1500Jet and 1 winter in Ryanair
I am an ex FR skipper so think thats about right but obviously could be wrong.
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From: Newcastle NI
no sponser
To put some balance I have to say the majority of people I know in Jet2 are fairly happy bunnies, yes there's the training hump, the main complaint i hear of is lack of roster stability and anyone from Ryanair used to 5/4 will find that a shock if commuting !!
I think if you live Midlands/North it one of the better deals, only deal around just now
Sorry should be Sponsor ......its late
I think if you live Midlands/North it one of the better deals, only deal around just now
Sorry should be Sponsor ......its late
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From: a small island
Hi Guys
I would appreciate if any Captain joined with the 'Irish contract' where you would have to be taxed in Ireland.
I was offered a DEC position in the base of my choice, but I am very skeptical to leave my current job (UAE flag carrier).
If any one has any info on take home money, I would appreciate any information, please pm me.
All the best.
I would appreciate if any Captain joined with the 'Irish contract' where you would have to be taxed in Ireland.
I was offered a DEC position in the base of my choice, but I am very skeptical to leave my current job (UAE flag carrier).
If any one has any info on take home money, I would appreciate any information, please pm me.
All the best.
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From: UK
Hibernia, thanks - it's a rare thing that someone agrees with me! 
In seriousness, though,t here are captains there who do have a spine and will do what is right, not what is demanded. I get in a lot of trouble for it, but haven't been suspended or fired despite some threats to that effect. I'm not alone in that, either. There is an awful lot of pressure to do exactly what you're told, and if you use your judgement and do things differently, you will be made very uncomfortable. Not as uncomfortable, though, as you would if you had an incident because you did as commanded from on high. You sometimes need to remind yourself when you feel the pressure that they are just an employer, and even if they fire you for not toeing the line, that is better than losing your licence or having an accident. Of course, there are those who are more easily cowed, just like in any company.
I have to say that the standards of RYR pilots are generally high. There are exceptions, but the bulk of us do the right thing when needed. Where we a really stuck is on Tsand Cs, because of the legal shenanigans of pan EU bases impeding the efforts of unionisation. But that mustn't be confused with how the guys and gals operate.
In seriousness, though,t here are captains there who do have a spine and will do what is right, not what is demanded. I get in a lot of trouble for it, but haven't been suspended or fired despite some threats to that effect. I'm not alone in that, either. There is an awful lot of pressure to do exactly what you're told, and if you use your judgement and do things differently, you will be made very uncomfortable. Not as uncomfortable, though, as you would if you had an incident because you did as commanded from on high. You sometimes need to remind yourself when you feel the pressure that they are just an employer, and even if they fire you for not toeing the line, that is better than losing your licence or having an accident. Of course, there are those who are more easily cowed, just like in any company.
I have to say that the standards of RYR pilots are generally high. There are exceptions, but the bulk of us do the right thing when needed. Where we a really stuck is on Tsand Cs, because of the legal shenanigans of pan EU bases impeding the efforts of unionisation. But that mustn't be confused with how the guys and gals operate.