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Old 5th Dec 2013, 22:32
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Easyjet Strikes

Pilots flying from all countries in easyland unite!
EasyJet management has been ruthless in the last few years towards the pilot community, especially in the last year.
For those lucky enough not to be flying in the UK, here is a summary of what happened in the UK this year:

After creating the flexi contract in the form of CTC cadets and Parc contracts, easyJet last January stopped talking to BAPLA during Merlin negotiations, arguing that it was taking too long. They proceeded to send their contract to the young cadets, and two weeks later threatened them by email to fire them if they didn't sign.
These tactics wouldn't be tolerated anywhere except in the very liberal UK.
BALPA, in an outstanding display of leadership, when asked by cadets what they should do refused to take a position arguing these weren't on a permanent contract therefore, they couldn't be represented!

The contract now signed by all the new entrant is as follows:

-The 2010 pay for first officers is used for all calculations, without the high inflation of the last 3 years.
-The company has institutionalized the 75% roster, therefore the 75% pay!
Copilots will be working 100% in summer and 50% in winter, working the same 900 hours a year but at a 25% discount!
-A copilot joining easyJet will not see a Bonus in his whole lifetime as a copilot untill he is promoted. Bonuses were previously 5% of gross pay after 3 years, 10% after 5 years.

Luckily, although BALPA has been working hand in hand with the company in bringing down pilot T+Cs, unions in europe are reacting to easyJet trying the same tactics in Italy, Portugal and France.

There is nothing to hope from BAPLA however pilots on Italian, French and Portuguese contracts, possibly even german contracts understand that our interests are quite opposite to that of the duet MacCall/Warwick.

Easyjet's brainwashing propaganda has been very good at spreading an atmosphere of fear amongst pilots.

However we need to react in a coordinated effort and support our respective unions. We tend to be too individualistic and we know the threat, we just have to look across the channel to see the consequences. We need to support and trust our unions to look after our interests and unite our efforts!

Pilots across the network UNITE!

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Old 5th Dec 2013, 23:04
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You seem to be fairly robust with regards to BALPA and EZY, e.g. "Luckily, although BALPA has been working hand in hand with the company in bringing down pilot T+Cs,". Could I ask what is your view on BALPA's comment here:


BALPA | EASYJET PILOTS DENOUNCE NEW CONTRACT
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 23:57
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If you want EJ pilots to UNITE why don't you start by putting it on the private Easyjet forum!
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 00:49
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Might be a good idea to read the new entrant terms and bonus scheme too before spouting off drivel to the world
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 00:49
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We are not mind readers Ecam, come on, spill...
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FB is correct.

BALPA have let down the UK easyJet crews for sometime now .


Quite clearly courting easyJet Management in the hope of achieving Managerial roles for themselves they would never accomplish through merit & attempting to sell us an RPI agreement as a great negotiating result with the 'possibility' of looking at lifestyle issues in the future.


The Merlin project catagorically mishandled by the Balpa CC last year with the core of the membership not swallowing the sellout package proposed by the CC.


Time we looked overseas at joining up with our colleagues in credible unions who look out for their members & not paying for Balpa , it's representatives & the so called CC to have numerous lunches on us !


Drop Balpa today , they're wasting your hard earned money.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 09:52
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Wow, so much inaccuracy its startling. Pay is as per the standard FO pay (which has just increased again with the BALPA negotiated payrise), if 75% part time your hours are capped at 675 hours (shock horror, 75% of 900). Also the loyalty pay has been switched into a loyalty bonus instead, so the payment isn't guaranteed unless the company is producing a profit.

Bit confused as to what your issue is to be honest and why your information is so horribly incorrect. . .or if you are even an EZY pilot.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 11:40
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BALPA have let down the UK easyJet crews for sometime now


Quite clearly courting easyJet Management in the hope of achieving Managerial roles for themselves they would never accomplish through merit & attempting to sell us an RPI agreement as a great negotiating result with the 'possibility' of looking at lifestyle issues in the future.


The Merlin project catagorically mishandled by the Balpa CC last year with the core of the membership not swallowing the sellout package proposed by the CC.
Really?! All the empty promises turn out to be just that: empty promises? Who would have thunk that?

Easyjet's brainwashing propaganda has been very good at spreading an atmosphere of fear amongst pilots.
Oh dear, where is Capt. Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy, our orange spectacled Alexander de Meerkat to put all this right?
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 11:43
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BALPA sold out completely in 2001/2, so why not again now?
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Oh Dear Doug - you must have selected the hamper rather than the champagne and it has brought you out all of a tizzy. As you might expect on such an informed website as this, FBOZH has made statements that are straight from Alice in Wonderland, only less believable. It is utter cobblers to say that 'BALPA has been working hand in hand with the company in bringing down pilot T+Cs'. Nonetheless, to even make a statement like that enables the more informed among us to make a better judgement on the relative merits of the arguments. Am a bit busy right now but if I have some spare time in the next few days, I will glad to debate the issues.
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It is utter cobblers to say that 'BALPA has been working hand in hand with the company in bringing down pilot T+Cs'.
Hand in hand? Perhaps not, but maybe they just totally fail to grasp the big picture?

Reading such naivety certainly brings back memories from this good old thread: BALPA - UK facing shortage of pilots.

Brilliant! By dumping hundreds or perhaps even thousands of more unemployed and desperate pilots onto an already oversupplied market, the T&C's for the ones already working in the industry will magically improve or at worst stabilize...which incidentally is one of BALPA's prime reasons of existence! You couldn't make this stuff up...
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You can't beat a global market.

The ability levels required to satisfactorily be a FO or Cap of an A320 are not beyond the level of a good number. This extra supply has led to a fall in T&Cs - and shouldn't be a surprise. You can delay it, but you're not going to stop it and people need to forget what e.g. a "BA FO was earning in 1993."
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BALPA Is totally worthless When the going gets tough they just walk away. In my day they were called British airway's line pilots Association But they will always take your 1%. Never again. Has nobody learnt any lessons from old issues
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Utter rubbish

You think we would be better off without Balpa?

Then what, replace it with what? with what resources? to what effect?

Balpa have made serious mistakes within easyJet, the Cadet saga being the most obvious, but overall they have done well, protected us from the worst of management excess and improved our conditions, Holiday Pay, the improved terms for cadets and an on time pay deal acceptable to the vast majority being the most recent examples.

1% has proven excellent value! especially as it's tax deductible, partly. Holiday Pay alone will cover my entire membership subs. Without Balpa I would have been many percentage points worse off. Works for me, so if it ain't broke don't fix it.

easyJet is a success story, and we have to work TOGETHER to ensure that continues. We have a very capable management team and a very good Balpa Company Council and it would seem that, on the whole, they are working constructively to the greater good. That is as it should be and requires effort and maturity from both, the later quality is sadly lacking in much of what appears above.
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F,

What an odd chap you are.

Either you have an incredible imagination, or you are suffering from some kind of condition. I have no idea where you get your ideas from, but I shall address them for the general readership...

Originally Posted by FBOZH
BALPA, in an outstanding display of leadership, when asked by cadets what they should do refused to take a position arguing these weren't on a permanent contract therefore, they couldn't be represented!
You have already been corrected on this in the private eJ forum, but I shall do it again here. This is referring to the moment when Flexicrew had an option to sign the Balpa negotiated New Entrant Contract (and get a permanent job) or to remain as indefinite flexicrew/contractor. Some pilots may have been temporarily financially disadvantaged by signing, so BALPA advised the individual to do what was best for them. There was no tactical advantage to all signing or all not signing, so no tactics were deployed. In the end all but 1 signed (and he then changed his mind).

Originally Posted by FBOZH
The contract now signed by all the new entrant is as follows:

-The 2010 pay for first officers is used for all calculations, without the high inflation of the last 3 years.
Totally fabricated. The rates have been subject to the negotiated pay rises every year. The SO rate is new, and was introduced to remove the seasonality that can seriously impair the lowest scales in winter. It guarantees a minimum monthly pay after loan repayments and has been welcomed by our low hour pilots.

The SO rate was included in the first pay rise it has seen.

Originally Posted by FBOZH
-The company has institutionalized the 75% roster, therefore the 75% pay!
Again, a negotiated middle ground was needed to get the company to accept the lack of seasonal flexibility it had legally created with flexicrew. Only a small number are on 75%, and they soon come off it as they gain seniority.

And you are again wrong, we have had 75% seasonal contracts for a long time now.

Originally Posted by FBOZH
Copilots will be working 100% in summer and 50% in winter, working the same 900 hours a year but at a 25% discount!
What company do you actually work for? The contracts are limited to 75% hours - an absolute solid line drawn by BALPA, which nearly caused the deal to collapse.
Originally Posted by FBOZH
-A copilot joining easyJet will not see a Bonus in his whole lifetime as a copilot untill he is promoted. Bonuses were previously 5% of gross pay after 3 years, 10% after 5 years.
Yet again, ferociously incorrect. See the post above for details on the bonus scheme. What planet are you on?

Originally Posted by FBOZH
Luckily, although BALPA has been working hand in hand with the company in bringing down pilot T+Cs, unions in europe are reacting to easyJet trying the same tactics in Italy, Portugal and France.
Actually, BALPA has negotiated an RPI+ payrise in a climate of reducing pay, it has got it delivered on time, it has removed the cancer of flexicrew and given new starter a proper timeline and employed pay structure, it has done a decent deal on the holiday pay and now it will start on the fatigue/roster/lifestyle issues. Meanwhile on the continent.....

I see you are in the UK. Are you a BALPA member?
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35million paid out to the members in the Holiday Pay case which was funded by BALPA.
That's before I mention this years pay rise, rostering agreement, FREA, D & G support, legal assistance etc.
Not really 'useless' in my experience.
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Originally Posted by FBOZH
Pilots across the network UNITE!
The purpose is the precise opposite.
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Threads like this make PPRuNe a complete and utter joke. I hardly ever read "general threads" because of the inaccurate rubbish which can be spouted by people who just make stuff up either from pure ignorance or vicious spite because they have nothing better to do....

I will not attempt to rebuff any single stupid comment on this thread but I seek only to warn readers that it is full of inaccurate drivel which is best ignored.

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I can only echo brizzol's wise words - this is largely fantasy, driven by a tiny number of people who either did not pass the easyJet assessment or who have a personal vendetta against easyJet. There are many, many pilots working at easyJet who have a great life, are well paid, fly to great destinations and have one of the most secure jobs in aviation. I have worked there 10 years and thoroughly enjoy it. Last year we had some hacked-off cadets who went to Monarch - good luck to them. Under our New Entrant Contract, very few would go now. Other than that, with very few exceptions, the only people who leave are those going to BA or Emirates.

I work a 5/3/5/4 roster pattern - I can book a dinner party this time next year knowing I will be there. I am about to get an extra 2700 net (or 4700 into my pension) this Christmas as a performance bonus, , around 2000 in share dividends in February, 6700 in back holiday pay in March (won by BALPA - best 1% I have ever spent), a 10 year bonus paid annually in May from now on of 15% of my salary and, if the share price stays anywhere near where it is currently, around 40,000 net for a 9,000 investment 3 years ago next August. I put 125 into my Bay-as-You-Earn share account and, with the current share price, I can cash around 80+ shares in each month generating a free 1000 each month tax free. That is all in addition to my regular monthly salary. Every single UK-based pilot has those deals available. They are almost literally throwing extra money at us - it would seem churlish to refuse. Life is not all about money, but I am struggling to to see why this is such a terrible airline to work for. It is not a national carrier, but to me it is a great place to be a pilot.
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'Last year we had some hacked-off cadets who went to Monarch - good luck to them.'

Partly because they were still being called cadets after 3 years with the airline.
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