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Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)

Old 21st Apr 2017, 10:27
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What are the chances of a LGW base for direct entry FO's?
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 12:08
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Base allocation depends entirely on the staffing requirements at the time you join, and is subject to your position on the master seniority list. I.e. if at the time of joining there is a requirement for people at LGW and nobody else above you on the master seniority list wants that particular base, then chances are big you'll get it. If the base is full, then you need to wait your turn until your number comes up.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 12:15
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Why 1500 hrs total time ?

Anybody knows for which reason they ask for 1500 Total ?
Insurance or other reasons ?
Cuz in Easa there is no requirements for it I guess, not the likes of FAA 1500hrs rules.


I can understand the 500 of jet/turboprop but what's the 1500 for ?
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 14:09
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Originally Posted by aless85 View Post
Yes they can offer a base in June. The biddings are close by then. Results are given beginning of August but that does not mean they know the results already. For winter in Spain most likely but not 100% sure it would be a base in the Canaries.
Summer in mainland.
All bases are growing so most likely The summer base can become the permanent base if you wish so.

All the people I work with that are ex FR say no way in hell they return there.

Of course is always a personal choice.
It is no so different. More or less same salary
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 14:49
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Originally Posted by FullClimb View Post
Many FR contractor skippers still leaving for NAS (SH)?
Yes for both SH and LH.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 17:28
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In the middle of my application for Norwegian (well, OSM). Just wondered if anybody had a rough idea of rosters for the Spanish bases? Are you back home every night, or do you end up in hotels overnight? Specifically ALC, MAD, AGP.

Many thanks in advance
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 22:14
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Home every night in ALC, MAD, AGP except if you are required, exceptionally, to cover another base.
4 days on (some standby) 3 days off. Longest day, AGP to HEL - 4 1/2 hours each way.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 07:57
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It is true that the SEPLA Norwegian in Spain s negotiating a salary increase of 40%?
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 12:58
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Home every night in ALC, MAD, AGP except if you are required, exceptionally, to cover another base. 4 days on (some standby) 3 days off. Longest day, AGP to HEL - 4 1/2 hours each way
Norwegian’s pilots based in Italy may not be content with their working conditions and are fighting for union recognition.

Despite Norwegian’s recent fine by a Spanish court for obstructing union association, a Scandinavian newspaper reported yesterday (22/4) that:

“Norwegian accused of union busting in Italy” -

Norwegian sables ned i notat fra egne pilotfagforeninger: - Norwegian beskyldes for fagforenings*knusing i Italia - Dagbladet

Italy based pilots have chosen ANPAC to represent them. Over 550 members of the Norwegian Pilot Group petitioned Norwegian Air Resources that they immediately recognize ANPAC –

https://www.eurocockpit.be/stories/2...ecognise-anpac

Norwegian’s paid mouthpiece said “the company has no commitment to NPG, because they are not a formal contracting party”.

Hopefully, passengers will not be left stranded and distraught again this summer due to another dispute between Norwegian and its pilots.
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Old 6th May 2017, 19:25
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Anyone who attended the 737 assessment recently had a reference check before getting the results ?
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Old 11th May 2017, 15:08
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Hi there!

So far I've read plenty of bad opinions on the company, whether is OSM or Norwegian itself. But I'd like to ask if someone is happy there, I'm not talking about the job of your life, but:

- Do they pay what is stated on the contract? Is it on time?
- Do they respect the base choice?
- Is the roster good enough? I know it can be different from base to base, but I ask if there are single days off or that kind of shenanigans.
- Is the flying enjoyable? How is the environment in the cockpit? Is training a pain in the @ss?

I'm considering a position as NTR DEC if they offer me my home base. Currently I'm sitting also on the left seat, earning more but on a very expensive city. Chances to get the place where I would like to live in my current outfit are close to zero, but I've been here for a while and it feels like home.

If you think you can be helpful in either way, I'd like to know your opinion.

Thanks
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Old 12th May 2017, 21:10
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You might be better off asking for a PM on the subject. I think the crews are happy, at least the ones that I know personally. Most that I know would not post on these boards because of the constant drama that is being put out there by a few posters who seem to have some sort of life mission to immediately post negative things when anyone tries to ask for or respond to questions about Norwegian and their hiring process.
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Old 17th May 2017, 11:09
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Some may not post answers to questions on working conditions fearing the drama of another management witch-hunt for those providing information perceived as critical. Alternatively, their life mission may be to sit idly by, silent and subservient to the entrenched management hypocrisy, but first in line for any benefits obtained by others.

It beggars belief that anyone having other choices would consider exchanging airline employment for airline unemployment, via a service provider agency. Fortunately, an increasing number of pilots are reacting to snake oil promises and demanding union representation with the entity controlling their working life rather than with a phantom employer.

Be sure to notify your mortgage provider of any tenuous employment circumstances (a conditional obligation in a mortgage loan application or contract).
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Old 17th May 2017, 23:10
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1. yes and yes, no issues getting paid on time, and if they get it wrong, they usually sort it out very quickly.

2. that depends entirely on demand at your chosen base and your position on the MSL.

3. days off are usually given in blocks of 3 or 4 and never less than 2. 2 however is the exception rather than the norm.

4. all very relaxed, common sense approach, training is also relaxed but lacks a little bit of structure, this is being addressed at the moment.
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Old 18th May 2017, 09:13
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Has anyone had any dealings with getting a UK mortgage once started working for NAS/OSM? Do mortgage lenders have any problems with OSM? Is the contract a permanent one or fixed term from OSM?

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Old 18th May 2017, 09:55
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F/O chances

Does anyone know how chances are with Norwegian with about 500-1000 hrs on the CRJ 700/900 and 700-1200 TT?
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:21
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Originally Posted by mcdonnst2 View Post
What are the chances of a LGW base for direct entry FO's?

Had a colleague invited for an interview for just such a position. It was a few months back.
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Old 18th May 2017, 12:49
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Originally Posted by mcdonnst2 View Post
Has anyone had any dealings with getting a UK mortgage once started working for NAS/OSM? Do mortgage lenders have any problems with OSM? Is the contract a permanent one or fixed term from OSM?
Please review a Virgin Money, mortgage application - link:

https://intermediaries.virginmoney.c...e_App_Form.pdf

Page 2 states it is an offense to give false/misleading information.
Page 9, Section 4, Your occupation and employment details, asks;
(4) Nature of employers business?
(7) Is the employment permanent?
(8) If your employment is on a contract basis, will your contract be renewed?

Companies House lists the nature of business for Norwegian OSM Aviation SH as; “Other activities of Placement Employment Agencies” - link:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09346296

It is undisputed you are employed by a service provider agency and rented to an airline via a Service Provider Contract. Unless you are party to a Collective Labor Agreement directly with the airline, the airline may return you to your employer agency without notice, reason or recourse. Under such circumstances, to comply with the mortgage loan application, your employment status with the agency must be declared - is your agency employment dependent and exclusive to only one airline?

The convoluted web of direct employment circumvention associated with Norwegian’s atypical labor model and the various contracts between the parties, is detailed in a report by the US National Mediation Board in their investigation of the crew member, Norwegian and OSM relationship, pages 2/3, Findings, Terms of Service Agreement between Norwegian Air Resources and OSM – link:

http://www.americanbar.org/content/d...thcheckdam.pdf
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Old 18th May 2017, 15:13
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Thanks a lot NS, that was helpful!
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Old 18th May 2017, 15:51
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Originally Posted by mcdonnst2 View Post
Has anyone had any dealings with getting a UK mortgage once started working for NAS/OSM? Do mortgage lenders have any problems with OSM? Is the contract a permanent one or fixed term from OSM?
Brookfield pilots managed to get a mortgage with no issues. Is the simple answer to your question. Just need to shop a bit harder.
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