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Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)

Old 2nd Nov 2014, 18:32
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The other somewhat scandalous fact is that the most recent guys in the company were in some cases only notified by their CRAP agency today via a phone call.

Some others found out by default, reading Facebook, or via an email from their Base Chief Captain if they were at a base where he could be bothered.

The most Junior guys have been given 4mths , others 3 or 2.
10 Captains out of a total of 60 pilots laid off. Some FO's have not even completed their initial line check.

What happened to foresight/planning. . .Ooops sorry, forgot, this is "Aviation", how silly of me.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 21:05
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Going forward it looks like you can only count on seasonal employment from Norwegian. Forget about roster, contact , and base stability going forward.
Nothing like being part of the Norwegian family.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 21:52
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Where is LNIDA to tell us what a great company this is?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 08:02
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qwertyuiop,
you just took the words right out of…….. probably still trying to re-shine those company issued rose coloured specs!!!!!!!
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 09:33
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Mind you, I seem to remember that captplaystation has previously waxed most eloquently about what a wonderful company Norwegian was to work for?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 09:56
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If you have the time to read through my total posting history (nobody in their right mind would) you would see that I was very sceptical about the initial contract in HEL back in 2011 with ARPI (it was woeful) & then quite content with what was offered in 2012 when I joined. I have always maintained a healthy cynicism of the whole Contractor/Core scenario & have never held back in my criticism of some of the failings of the NPU to secure fair & equitable terms for ALL pilots "employed" by NAS.

I have always told it like I saw it at the time, 2 and a half years ago I was recommending it to any FR crew I met whilst flying with them from home to base,now I usually tell them to stay put.

I think changing ones opinion is a good thing, it is not hypocritical, it is actually having an open mind & learning from what transpires around you. Like most recent(ish) entrants, my spectacles may have been slightly rose(red?) tinted, they were after all, quite convincingly charming. Unfortunately like most people . . . I now see things with more of a blue/yellow tint.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 12:04
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qwertyuiop

Still hear and like most I only found out in the last 24 hours.

TBH I'm not surprised, but disappointed by the way this has been handled, latest rumour is that this is due to a spread sheet error in crew planning !!! i think it reflects that the company having grown too quickly and some departments have not been able to keep pace.

For the individuals effected it is not good and will tarnish Norwegians reputation for some period to come in the pilot community.

We all knew that we were over crewed going into the winter, i won't insult anyone by trying to put a positive spin on this, there isn't any, if its a one 'off' event then Norwegian pilot reputation will recover and 2015 is planned to be a steady as you go year.

But no not good
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 12:27
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Maybe a syndical view but I bet there was no spreadsheet error, but in order to encourage crew from FR they couldn't use seasonal contacts. So instead knowing full well they would lay of guys over the winter forfilled recruitment figs for the summer.

Would anyone have left FR if the offer was a 9 month on 3 month off contract?

Further this with employment law in Norway where they can only use contractors for short periods without being made perm. And the fact the 2 year timeframe will start again on these guys getting perm if they are to cone back in March.

Personally I think there's too many positives for NAS for this not yo be a calculatated move.

I really do hope people stear clear of this company that's just achieved the Race-To-The-Bottom cup.

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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 23:03
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QUISLINGS

QUISLINGS; Norway has form.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 23:54
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Googlebug, you really need to enable spellcheck/post with a different device / sober up (as applicable)
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 07:01
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Is there any truth to FR willing to take us back?

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Old 4th Nov 2014, 10:28
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Norwegian always was, and always will be operating dual standards, the " locals" will enjoy the protection of the mother ship and the " contractors" will be hung out to dry, it was always apparent and those working there should do so with their eyes open. As for " tarnishing the reputation" , NAS didn't have a reputation to preserve in the first place, OK, it provided valuable employment and an alternative at a time when guys needed it and THEY needed pilots. Perhaps they have now naturally shrunk to the correct crewing levels and the "bullish" recruitment aka " company promotion" should be stopped. A few lines of bad press will undo their years of positive spin on growth. Have Ryanair and Easy ever actually "sacked" pilots due to seasonal demands? Jet2 have the courtesy to let guys know the score before they join, perhaps NAS can learn a lesson in protocol here..
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 13:45
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A friend on the 60 list tells me its enforced unpaid leave of absence and that he remains employed, but not paid with ID travel but no money to go anywhere.

He has two months off others more.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 18:10
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NTR B737 interview in Fornebu

Hi !
I will go on Monday at Fornebu for the NTR interview. How was yours ? I hope you did well...
Could you tell me about the selection process, what is the group exercise about ? The technical questions are easy or not ?
Is there a sim check afterwards or you directly go into the rating ?
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 14:02
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Is there any truth to FR willing to take us back?
Yes. FR are all over this like a rash.
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 16:16
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interview 737 or 787?
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Old 7th Nov 2014, 17:11
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Same here for monday.
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Old 8th Nov 2014, 14:32
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coming back

If you are allowed to come back to RYR will that be a "new contract" with less salary ?
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Old 8th Nov 2014, 16:10
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No, you will get a new contract with more money Sherlock!
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Old 11th Nov 2014, 19:04
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@ Maverick974 and @Hurdle,
Im one of those still waiting for reply so sorry I can not give you any info.
Maybe you can say how long time they let you know before intervju?

Thanks
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