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Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)

Old 20th Oct 2014, 20:18
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Heard nothing since doing tests Mid-August. I have noticed that some people have been sent PFO's since then.

I can only assume that I am still in the system but probably now just in an inactive pile along with everyone else still waiting. A friend of mine is one of the lucky chosen ones so I think they have concluded this round of recruitment and are holding us... maybe for next year?

Agree with the others though, a little common courtesy and an update would have been appreciated. Sadly it's the norm now with most Companies
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Old 21st Oct 2014, 05:56
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Well guys, I'm very sorry for you, because a little over 18 months ago, I had a very different and positive experience joining NAS.

My worry now is that we are following the Ryanair method of expanding the company, without the operational support. This only leads to angry frustrated office bods, and poor support for the front line workers. Since we will soon be an Irish company, with certain ex FR personnel, this will possibly exacerbate the situation.

I hope I'm proved wrong.

All in my own humble opinion of course!

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Old 21st Oct 2014, 06:32
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Same Here

I am extremely disapprointed in their behavior . The worst recruiting team in the industry probably. I applied 5 times since 2008 and they always misplaced my application until I finally got to the online assessment in July!! So far not even a sound from them. No wonder the head of recruitment is the daughter of the boss, remembers me of mafia.
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Old 21st Oct 2014, 21:21
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Damianik

Believe it or not you are not automatically entitled to an interview. I've been informed that there has been over 4000 applications for the non type rated 737 positions. Also if you factor in all the applications from rated people, then I'm sure you will understand that the recruitment team has a very high work load at the moment.

Your comment about the head of recruitment is juvenile and very unfair at best.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 17:39
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leaving nax to go back to fr, are you friggin' kidding me, you can't even believe that...... jeeeeeeesus, believe it or not, people are happy in nax, the majority anyways, the fact is we're not getting more airframes just replacements, so lots of you will probably hear......... a lotta nothing !!!!
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 20:09
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Wait till the "next Contract/Irish AOC " before being so sure (sorry, but that is life. . . . .)
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Old 24th Oct 2014, 08:35
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If you look at Norwegian's investor relations page you will find the 3rd quarter results and presentation, in essence it states that 2015 will be a year of consolidation with projected growth of seats around 5% this compares with 40%+ in recent years.

Whilst there are new airframes coming these are replacing the 300's and 3 early 800's plus the final 787 from the 1st long haul order.

There is of course training on going, but nothing like the previous scale, the figures i've heard are half a dozen conversion courses i.e. type rates and two non type rated courses, each course will normally have around 8 -10 on each, so if your non type rated your looking at 20 starters.

If you don't make this cut, then be patient 2016 will be a very different situation in terms of recruitment

Good luck to all.
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 18:14
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For those of you contemplating making the move, you should be aware that NAS (in Ryanairesque fashion at 16:00 on a Friday on the last day of the month thereby not breaching the 1 mth notice period) have given the last 60 entrants "forced unpaid leave"/ "termination of Contract" for 3 mths from 1st December.

A nice early Xmas present indeed.

If that sounds familiar . . . . well, maybe you are suffering from the same rare form of colour blindness as me, where everything that is Red looks Blue/Yellow


Edited to add, all in my humble purely personal opinion of course.

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Old 31st Oct 2014, 19:00
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That snook up on us like a Ryanair stealth plane. Brilliant. Absolutely flipping brilliant. I hope my kids like the lumps of coal they will be getting for Christmas.
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 21:09
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You mean the "offered" reason ? or the "real reason" (which would, of course , only be scurrilous speculation )
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 22:19
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Norwegian is disgusting,

Speaking as a current Norwegian pilot / former Ryanair pilot. My only advice is to stay away from Norwegian at all cost. Unless that is you enjoy to be terminated with one month notice, while in the meantime Norwegian continues to conduct new hire classes. 2 NTR classes and 4 conversions courses to be held starting in January. Simply disgusting. Even the likes of ryanair wouldn't be that blatant.
When Bjørn was asked last month in the LGW base meeting as to permanent contracts. Bjørn answered " nobody needs to be worried about their jobs."
Well Bjørn that makes you a liar! As witnessed bye the better half of the base.
All these pilots you are terminating gave up corriers at other companies to come here.

Pilots out there don't make the same mistake!
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 22:24
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Way I heard it was that "new" pilots (currently on line-training) had accepted contracts paying terms less than the ones openly posted on here numerous times over the last couple of years (search this & other NAS forums if you don't believe me) and, if you joined anytime this last 6mths you SHOULD have been aware of the "contract" you SHOULD have been offered, unless you were a total retard.

Word is, these folks accepted less, 60 existing pilots subsequently laid off . . . can you imagine, possibly, which way this is headed ? FFS, if you were dumb enough to sign a Contract this last 6mths & accepted less than €5100+telephone allowance what WERE you thinking ? or, WERE you thinking ?

Well, when/if you come to LPA, I will clear it up for you
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 22:48
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A notice was already posted stating that Base Chief Captains/Line Trainers/Line Checkers would be given "permanent contracts" when NAI is established in LGW . . . and sometime thereafter in Spain /HEL ( CPH/ARN ? ) . . . . . & the rest of us, the "great unwashed", are we not worthy of permanent contracts ?


Anyone familiar with the machinations of another well known low cost carrier, will be familiar with the concept of "divide & conquer". A crying shame that the management of NAS/NAN/NAI/NAR (whatever) isn't familiar with the advert "don't imitate, innovate".

The business model of the "dark side" has already had to soften up (a little)due to revolts by pax & customers alike, what , Oh what, is this poor imitation of MOL doing trying to p1ss off what was amongst the most motivated staff in the "loco" world, whilst at the same time alienating his very "conservative" Norwegian customers, who are always asking the staff onboard what, exactly, their Boss is doing, as they constantly seem to be reading about staff disputes . . . . . if it ain't broke, break it . . . Er no Bjorn, that isn't quite it. . . . . well, my location to the left of this post has been FUBAR for a long time, maybe I should ask "Location" to be changed to "Employer". . . . train crash in slow motion, for staff, but quite possibly for the company as well if they don't waken up.

I don't doubt that all this expansion + the bottomless pit that is the long haul operation, is not resulting in some pressure to cut costs, but, in the meantime, is it really essential to destroy the morale of your staff ?

Since I joined in Mar2012, there have been bi-annual disputes/contract changes, and, lest we extend this thread several pages, lets not get involved in the treatment of all of the Cabin Crew, or the terms they "enjoy" at the non- Scandi bases.

I cannot even watch the self congratulatory videos posted on the company website like "this is the Norwegian way" . . . it is merely a sickeningly cynical attempt to trade on a very sincere "ambience" that has been systematically dismantled this last 3 years.

Sad, in the short term for us, and, I would anticipate, for them too in the long term.
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Old 31st Oct 2014, 22:53
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Guys, I told you so. However, it gives me no pleasure to be right and see this once decent company is winning the race to the bottom. There will still be and endless supply of pilots so desperate to fly that they will backstab everyone in order to do so. By the time they realise they actually managed to backstab themselves, they will be reading their own termination letter. Enter the next batch of pilots underbidding the previous crowd. What part of "race to the bottom" is so hard to understand. Leave the business and never look back, I will, as soon as I can.
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 10:52
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Of those of you who swapped from the yellow and blue team to the reds had a choice to return would you?
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 11:53
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very short sighted of them.
I hope even thoese desperate to leave the grips of MOL or any other awful circumstance will realise that NAS is not worth trying.
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 13:16
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If I could do it again, I wouldn't leave FR.
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 14:53
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I don't think anyone would have left FR. For all it's faults, it was at least a secure job. You make hay in the summer and save it for the winter.

At NAX you make an average wage in the summer and get sacked in the winter. I'll see you all down the job centre in Horsham.
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 15:08
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It's sad but true, FR has proven to be more secure then Nax. It all feels like a big huge con.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 14:47
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Norwegian seems to adopt the Techniques of Vueling in Spain... Very sad... This company has lost all the credibility for me so now It is out of my potential companies.
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