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Old 9th November 2012 | 19:44
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Greed. . . boredom. . . or bad "marriage planning" (bit of a US problem )
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Old 10th November 2012 | 04:27
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captjns. Well said!

And dear,chipmunk flypast,certainly you have your pension because someone did not accept this type of contract in the past.
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Old 10th November 2012 | 06:33
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Quite frankly, anyone who is qualified for this and has ONE IOTA OF SELF RESPECT would tell them pay starts on day one, or no warm bum on the seat. By accepting such conditions YOU are bringing down the whole industry, and if you have the experience to get the position you should know better. If you don't, you shouldn't be allowed near a cockpit anyway for obvious reasons!

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Old 10th November 2012 | 22:37
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Too good

...to see fellows showing some dignity.
It's disgusting to see guys selling themselves cheaper than ugly w....s.
They are the crap that put us were we are now.
Even scabs, at least had some self respect.

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Old 10th November 2012 | 23:37
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lets cut to the chase here, Im no management pilot trust me...flew the line with KAL and some others...im the wrong side of 60, so this gig is fine, also im home every couple of weeks, I have a pension so this suits me, it wont suit some, thats the way it is and this suits my lifestyle.
One reason why I left KAL was because we ( expat pilot group ) started to get sorry characters like chipmunk over in kimchiland. I watched with sadness and indignity as such characters made life suck for expats, as they suck up to the management for "plum" posts and assignments. W....s of the worse order!

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Old 11th November 2012 | 01:14
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As in the days of yore in the Calvary, dishonorable chaps would be stripped of their medals, comission, and a broad yellow stripe painted down their backs!
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Old 12th November 2012 | 08:38
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I dont want to be bitter, as is generally the fealings on this site. Hey it suits me to be here, maybe not you all...yes there are negatives...however when I do my pros and cons...there are more pros for me....so lets just leave it at that and drop all this cavalry references.
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Old 12th November 2012 | 10:29
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It's not a matter of being bitter mate, I am happy where I am as a current 777 Captain. Would a basing appeal to me-yes it would-for the right $. This contract sure as hell isn't the right $. The matter is there are individuals like YOU who should know better, have benefitted from previous peoples efforts throughout your career, yet are happy to screw the industry for the rest of us during the twilight of your career-the words self centred and selfish spring to mind. I am pretty sure if your previous company ever had a Labour dispute I know which side of the picket line you would have been on-and it is the opposite to me!
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Old 12th November 2012 | 11:52
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There was an advert in the Bangkok Post from Kenya Airways for B777 drivers a couple of days ago.

Here's a link to another site with the advert. CAPTAINS (JET ENGINE PILOTS)-Latest Pilot Jobs-Latest Pilot Jobs
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Old 12th November 2012 | 23:39
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"It's not a matter of being bitter mate, I am happy where I am as a current 777 Captain. Would a basing appeal to me-yes it would-for the right $. This contract sure as hell isn't the right $. The matter is there are individuals like YOU who should know better, have benefitted from previous peoples efforts throughout your career, yet are happy to screw the industry for the rest of us during the twilight of your career-the words self centred and selfish spring to mind. I am pretty sure if your previous company ever had a Labour dispute I know which side of the picket line you would have been on-and it is the opposite to me! "

Couldn't say it better!

These 'grandmas' are screwing up the industry, probably because nobody likes them farting around back home, life at the golf club is too boring, old and fat wife too much to bear. Grandsons don't like them. So they endeavour an Indian, African adventure! Very last chance to be called 'captain'...too sad.
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Old 13th November 2012 | 00:21
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It’s bad enough when a zero tohero pays $40,000 to acquire right seat time in a Boeing or Airbus.

Its debase when a so-called 30year plus veteran elects to work for an airline, for free, knowing full wellthey are part of the problem.

Yes… this person if living proofof what I believe to be our worst foe in the industry… not airline management… notthe union MEC currying favor with management to get that cushy job… its lowlife possum breath pilots like this individual who are our worst enemies.
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Old 13th November 2012 | 03:52
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Fed up

...of this crap.
What a sad way to finish a career: nobody likes them, either back home or on line. Colleagues don't respect them, managers despise them but know they are valuable assets in accepting anything to get strapped on an acft seat.

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Old 13th November 2012 | 05:32
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managers despise them but know they are valuable assets in accepting anything to get strapped on an acft seat.
At least one gets paid from the date of arrival into India.

On $60 USD per day until released to te line, a 12 hour work day... hmmm that comes to $5 USD per hour. Can one's self esteem sink any lower?

The worst part is, if the going gets rough he will just quit which won't help the expat image.
The image created before the pilot ups and leaves is that they are willing to work for free... that's a heck of alot worse!
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Old 14th November 2012 | 12:09
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Originally Posted by oldboldpilot
It has survived decades of political subversion, mismanagement, wars, civil wars, disasters, countless hijakings and coups-galore to become a respectable outfit in Africa.
I have no respect for this outfit and it has nothing to do with their payscale and every thing to do with their reaction to the investigation report of their accident in Beirut.

Deny everything and try to blame Boeing or a missile.

That is not the sign of a respectable outfit.
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Old 18th November 2012 | 23:45
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I have no respect for this outfit and it has nothing to do with their payscale and every thing to do with their reaction to the investigation report of their accident in Beirut.

Deny everything and try to blame Boeing or a missile.

That is not the sign of a respectable outfit.
Agreed. More important a pilot with self-respect would stay away from an outfit like this. In the free world, as professionals, we do have choices. Be part of the problem or be part of the solution.

I have absolutely no respect for an individual with so many hours and years experience in the industry who would work for free.

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Old 23rd November 2012 | 18:48
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8th Nov chipmunk flypast said : -


just waiting on my validation to start line Training....this is my second week here....so after a week of Line Training and check ride, should be released and on contract.



So, are you checked/on line / earning de big (?) Bucks ? I think we should be told
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Old 24th November 2012 | 06:41
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So, are you checked/on line / earning de big (?) Bucks ? I think we should be told
My guess is no... can't afford to pay for the internet and brag about the pay, or lack thereof.
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Old 28th November 2012 | 06:30
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After getting a bunch of childish insults on this thread.......I wouldn't be surprised if you don't see him chasing your bait.
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Old 28th November 2012 | 08:25
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Far from childish insults. How about childish selfish behavior for consciously lowering the bar. The braggart should be chased out of the profession along with all the miscreants who do exercise the same behavior.
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Old 28th November 2012 | 10:08
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Was doing the Line Training hadnt the time so update sorry. Really nice airplanes and very respectful company. So far so good.
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