B 777 commuting contract africa

[richard III]

Hi all, there's a commuting B 777 position advertised in africa, 20/10. Not much info though, any comments?

[atila_101]

could that be Ethiopian??? just a guess...

[hunterboy]

I gather they are not paying much either....

[springbok449]

TAAG Angolan Airlines?

[captjns]

Ethiopian is the only carrier I'm aware of. Bottom feeder operation. No pay until line training is complete.

[B737NG]

I was in Luanda last week, it is not TAAG for sure. Just the no paying operator in Addis. Etiopian AL, for Cargo only.

Direct Personell tries to lure people for that recently.

[richard III]

tks guys, no idea, Ethiopian is a no no, just hadn't seen the 20/10 add before

[sleeve of wizard]

The position is a direct placement contract assignment with Ethiopian, operating as a Line Captain on their B777Fs. D..... P........ have recently been tasked with collating candidates.

Upon offer of a position – you will directly contract with the airline not D...... P........ I............

Candidates must be available to either commence in October/November 2012.

Duration is for 3 years initially with extensions thereafter maybe offered. The Ethiopian CAA allow pilots to maintain their licence until the age of 65, when retirement is mandatory.

There are 2 roster patterns available:

• 25/12 or 20/10 with excellent travel privilidges on the network and within the Star Alliance Interline Arrangement.

I have attached a number of documents for your attention and review:

• B777 Job Specification
• B777 Q&A
• Ethiopian Pilot Application Form
• Letter of consent

US$11,750 per month (based on a 25/12 roster pattern)

[captjns]

Remember... no pay until released to the line

[captplaystation]

And expect to be line checked to every destination possible to prolong the unpaid period (I have been told)

[chipmunk flypast]

B777

Wizzo - are you going to apply, before you do I was offered $500 more, when did you apply?

[sleeve of wizard]

chippy, wouldn't waste my time applying to this lot.
Posted the t&c as info for others.

[chipmunk flypast]

B777

when did you get em ....i was in touch 2 weeks ago.

I'll see out the last couple of years hopefully with them....heading off to do the sim and med tomorrow.

PlayStation - any comments your side -

[captjns]

How long is the training on the 777. Also just like on the 757/767 and 737 one is not on the payroll until line training is complete? Only $60 USD per diem?

[chipmunk flypast]

B777

Im current, they only want current 777 Capts, so i will do a sim assessement in cairo and head off to Addis, a couple of Line sectors and then release, could be on contract a week after arriving into ADD AB.

76. 73 - I hear that as soon as you are ready they'll lc you so it;s upto u

[evyjet]

Yeah that's for US taxpayers. Unfortunately you guys are screwed wherever and whatever you do!

Get another passport and denounce your citizenship or pay the piper.

Shouldn't be that way, but you have to pay the bankers guys!

[captplaystation]

Chipmunk, I hope you are not being unduly optimistic, as this is what the agency promises for the 737 (and they normally OVER promise, not UNDERpromise ) Well, let us know retrospectively

Duration Permanent position
Immediate subject to initial assessment.
**Before signing a contract with Ethiopian Airlines, you will complete training Start Date for approx 3-5 weeks (no defined training time given so can be longer). During this period you will only receive a per diem and hotel accommodation. You will begin 20 days on once you are issued with your letter of employment at
Base of Operations
Roster Schedule
Yearly Salary
Per-Diem
the end of training.
Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
Ethiopian Airlines will schedule Pilots in accordance with local FTL.
Pilots will be scheduled on a roster pattern of:
20 Days On followed by 10 Days Off Or 25 Days On followed by 12 Days Off
Paid monthly directly by Ethiopian Airlines based on flying 80 block hours per month. Overtime will be paid 1/80 of the monthly basic salary for any hours flown in excess of 80 block hours
B737NG Line Captain USD$6, 500 per month
USD$60 per day payable by Ethiopian Airlines, sick leave and annual leave will not be included.
Pilots will be provided with hotel accommodation for the first 30 days on
Arrival at the base of operations. After this period a housing allowance of Accommodation USD1,250 will be provided to locate suitable fully furnished apartment
accommodation. (assistance will be provided locally by Ethiopian Airlines in sourcing suitable accommodation)

[fade to grey]

My mate did 7 weeks without pay, the training regime is harsh. He's online now but doing max hrs + each month.

[chipmunk flypast]

ET Airlines

im happy to proceed, but is there any of you who have tried it or are you as usual holding onto your mammies apron strings and bitch on and on and on, all I can hear is " my mate did this" or " I heard this happens", for intellegent men you dont half go on like nagging cows...so tell me have any of you actually done anything, have you applied, have you gone there and tried it out and actually back up your bull.

[fade to grey]

Listen, I'm not making this stuff up. There are numerous warnings on this forum about this contract. The only 777 capts they'll get are the unemployed or unemployable at a decent airline.

Go try it, , and enjoy your $60 dollars a day.