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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 06:54
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redsnail:

Ok then you might understand our point of view when reading things like this:

posted by your mate!


If you do a bit of research, you'll see that bmi mainline is to be absorbed into BA. Pilots will not be made redundant, they're just being taken into BA.
Im alright jack! I am genuinely happy for you all though.

As for the rest of the company, I'd be looking for another job really quite soon. I cannot imagine the rest of the business being kept at all.
I guess that means the rest of us, ala regional and baby. Are we lesser pilots because of what we fly, are we less professional? Why the throw away comments to your fellow professionals SAS? You claim to be privy to sensitive info, why spread on a public forum and wind everyone up? Why not on the bmi private forum?


And yes we don't like reading this redsnail, most of us have houses to pay for and families to support. We are hearing nothing from the management but you are suggesting that we head the messages of an anonymous poster on pprune!

So come on then answer the question.

Should I be searching for another job today? You obviously seem to have inside info that a mere pilot working for the company hasn't..
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 07:16
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I am merely a simple line pilot too, so I only offer this as food for thought, but it is my understanding that Regional and Baby were not part of the deal between LH/IAG. If Regional and Baby could not be sold then IAG would receive a sizeable reduction in the purchase price from LH. It is also my understanding that Regional has a buyer lined up so your role, subject to your potential new owner, won't change as you are still required. I have also heard that Baby now has an as yet undisclosed buyer.

I believe earlier comments were potentially focussed around the different departments within BMI mainline and their fates with the potential IAG acquisition.

It appears to have gone very quiet on the sale of Regional and Baby but one would assume this is down to due diligence etc being carried out and the deals/contracts being negotiated, drawn up and scrutinised.

I am genuinely keeping my fingers crossed for all as I would not wish redundancy on anyone.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 07:32
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Right you are 73addict. We are not part of the deal, we know that. However if we do end as part of the deal, which is a possibility, we are to be cast aside.

The snobbish attitudes of some posted on here need to be checked. Gloating from your new red white and blue tower whilst telling the rest of us to go forth and look for new jobs does get my back up to be honest.

And these comments were most certainly focused at the stepchildren!

The regional deal seems to have fallen apart, no-one knows who is going to buy Baby (if anyone) and mainline will cease to exist in what's likely to be fairly short order. I'd be looking for a new job elsewhere if I was a regional pilot to be honest, rather than at mainline. Will BA want the regional operation? Or would they rather just shut it down if they get their hands on it? No idea.
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Gloating? Konspiracy do you wear a tin-foil hat to bed as your username suggests?

There is no gloating from anyone about the sale process. I feel terrible for the people at Regional, especially as Regional should have been bought out by the granite team months ago. Why that hasn't happened I have no idea and I can't offer any knowledge on the reasons for why that hasn't completed at all.

No-one is thinking "I'm alright jack" over this. If they are, it's not me that's doing it. Mainline crews are likely to be directly absorbed into IAG. IAG have already publically stated that they are not interested in either Baby and Regional.

What that means is unclear. If Regional is part of the deal with IAG then Regional people might be absorbed into BA. Equally they might simply close the company down and make everyone redundant.

There is not gloating here, just a comment. I'd hate to see Regional die. It's a great little company and there are some excellent people there. I know, I've worked with them on numerous occasions and I'd hate to see people that I consider friends as well as colleagues out of work.

If you are smart, then you'll have a look around to cover yourself. Hopefully that isn't actually necessary, but when it comes to paying my mortgage, then I like to keep my options open.

None of us are in control of this situation and I can see why you'd be frustrated. I am myself, but bickering between the companies is unecessary and unhelpful. Especially when you are assuming things from posts that aren't meant.

Cheers Reddo! How's Junior and the big fella?
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 10:42
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SAS, great mate, we're on hols in Japan.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 10:49
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I am jealous! Have fun and getting a bit of skiing in?
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 10:50
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If you are smart, then you'll have a look around to cover yourself. Hopefully that isn't actually necessary, but when it comes to paying my mortgage, then I like to keep my options open.
If you're smart you'll sit tight and see this one out to the bitter end as the potential upside is a job under the umbrella of the safest game in town.

Of course, back in 2007, you would have negotiated yourself a good Income Protection policy that pays out for 1-2 years in such an event....sure you might be limited to 65% of your wage but...

Frankly, no one who knows anything about whats going to happen is posting on PPrune. There are an awful lot of "mights", maybes", "unclears" in the posts on the bmi threads precisely for that reason.

Why anyone should feel predisposed to offer advice to other employees, even if they are hobnobbing with the powers-that-be, is beyond me? Whats the agenda?

Nature abhors a vacuum. The information vacuum that exists at the moment is temporary, albeit, frustrating.

IAG were always going to say they weren't interested in certain elements of the group if they knew that was going to enable them to get a reduction on the price they were going to have to pay for the business.

Having bought the business, what they "want" or "like" will be trumped by what is legal.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 14:00
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SR71, a very sensible post. I think many would do well to heed that! In fact I'm sure the existence of forums like this only contribute to the secrecy involved. At the end of the day this is all commercially sensitive stuff and I think we'll all agree that as soon as what is really happening is allowed out of the inner circle it will appear here as quick as! And as we know journos are well aware of the existence of this forum and have directly quoted from it. You can't really blame management for keeping thins so close to their chest as frustrating as that may be. Just put it down to an unfortunate side effect of the information age I guess.
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Any news on this? What are bmi going to do about pilots?
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Old 8th Mar 2012, 15:58
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No news I'm afraid. Everyone is waiting for the EU decision, so it's a bit like the phony war, However, bmi mainline pilots will more than likely all be absorbed into BA. I'm certainly not expecting any compulsory redundancies there.

As for regional and baby, until we know if they are being bought seperately or being taken as part of the deal into BA, then no idea I'm afraid. Anyone who says different is guessing. There is no fact out there at all.
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