British Airways DEP Selection - THE lowdown Part 2
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It's a lovely pay back isn't it for all the service you give to your country that they even try to shaft you when you leave!
The USAF actively promote the fact that they will help you achieve an ATP and placement as long as you give your return of service. It's a pity our lot don't.
Whilst I miss my former colleagues and the banter I don't miss the intense rubbish admin that we were always forced to endure!
It's a lovely pay back isn't it for all the service you give to your country that they even try to shaft you when you leave!
The USAF actively promote the fact that they will help you achieve an ATP and placement as long as you give your return of service. It's a pity our lot don't.
Whilst I miss my former colleagues and the banter I don't miss the intense rubbish admin that we were always forced to endure!
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I guess I'm having a crash course in civilian life! All about being in the right place at the wrong time, I suppose...
Sign for the jet, walk off and the only thing you have to worry about is when you are next up for a trip.
As an ex-mil jock the 'ease of life' is breathtakingly nice! Keep trying, it really is worth it. (Mind you the flying can be a bit dull!)
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Originally Posted by Wirbelsturm
When will you guys comprehend that the BMI deal doesn't alter the recruiting requirement one little bit. BMI are bringing aircraft and slots that will have to be flown/filled. The pilots from BMI will be required to operate the aircraft they bring with them thus making the initial pilot 'pot' a little bigger. The numbers they bring are irrelevant as the same numbers retiring from BA mainline and the same numbers required for fleet expansion still exist. In fact, if the BMI slots are converted (slowly) to LH slots then the crew requirement for each slot increases from approx 5.5 to almost 9 crews per aircraft. BMI has nothing to do with it!
The only possible reason I can see for 'no courses' is training capacity.
Not sure where this rumour has come from as I certainly haven't heard it and I know that BA is still actively recruiting.
The only possible reason I can see for 'no courses' is training capacity.
Not sure where this rumour has come from as I certainly haven't heard it and I know that BA is still actively recruiting.
Chris Griffin said:
Spoke to recruiting today to be told no more courses for at least a year
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I agree, this all seems a bit surreal. From what I am told, the last formal announcement from the recruitment team suggested that courses were penned in up until August. This seemed to be without regard to the outcome of the pilot vote on the integration with bmi crew. If anything, tones from the recruiters indicated that a 'yes' vote would be advantageous to future DEP hire. After the 'yes' vote was announced it appeared that recruitment was once again gathering momentum. I know of a number of people who are now awaiting confirmed assessment dates or who have attended these recently. Sources that I would consider reliable suggested that existing 'holdpoolers' would be offered positions 'in due course.' This would fit with Wirbelsturm's opinion, who of course is part of BA.
Now it's being suggested that it is all over? Wam Bam! All seems a bit sudden. Hopefully some clarity will emerge after the weekend. I believe a written update is due from the recruitment team imminently??
Now it's being suggested that it is all over? Wam Bam! All seems a bit sudden. Hopefully some clarity will emerge after the weekend. I believe a written update is due from the recruitment team imminently??
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Arctic Monkey,
The simple answer is, at the moment, I don't know.
I'm working now but when I can I'll find out what I can. Until then I really can't say anything else other than I have no idea if they have closed the taps or not. Although, IMHO, it would surprise me if they have.
Cheers.
The simple answer is, at the moment, I don't know.
I'm working now but when I can I'll find out what I can. Until then I really can't say anything else other than I have no idea if they have closed the taps or not. Although, IMHO, it would surprise me if they have.
Cheers.
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Apologies for dropping the grenade and running away, but work called. Having spoken to recruitment ref course dates the direct quote is "there are no more courses planned for the foreseeable future".
As stated previously, swimmers can wait for 18 months in the hold pool before being required to apply again.
For those working for civilian carriers i assume there's no great shakes - 3 months notice is 3 months notice.
This does, however, put the majority of us military people at a huge disadvantage. Those of us who have taken a leap of faith have been well and truly shafted. The media wide publicity campaign for the new round of recruitment focused to a large extent on providing opportunities for ex mil. Whilst I'm sure the managed path system will continue, there is no doubt there are alot of us mil guys and gals who are now unable to wait due to mil and other commitments.
Best get the CV updated.
As stated previously, swimmers can wait for 18 months in the hold pool before being required to apply again.
For those working for civilian carriers i assume there's no great shakes - 3 months notice is 3 months notice.
This does, however, put the majority of us military people at a huge disadvantage. Those of us who have taken a leap of faith have been well and truly shafted. The media wide publicity campaign for the new round of recruitment focused to a large extent on providing opportunities for ex mil. Whilst I'm sure the managed path system will continue, there is no doubt there are alot of us mil guys and gals who are now unable to wait due to mil and other commitments.
Best get the CV updated.
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Well, having spoken to BA Recruitment this morning it would appear that assessments are still ongoing and Sim assessments are still pencilled if for whenever people find out they have passed day 1. They haven't got round to telling people who attended two weeks ago, so who knows what is happening.
How it all factors into the bigger picture is anyone's guess!
How it all factors into the bigger picture is anyone's guess!
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Having spoken to recruitment ref course dates the direct quote is "there are no more courses planned for the foreseeable future".
Well, having spoken to BA Recruitment this morning it would appear that assessments are still ongoing and Sim assessments are still pencilled if for whenever people find out they have passed day 1
As stated previously, swimmers can wait for 18 months in the hold pool before being required to apply again.
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Any one have an idea on future 767 courses?
Having spoken to recruitment ref course dates the direct quote is "there are no more courses planned for the foreseeable future".
I'm sure BA recruitment will be along with an update for their hold poolers fairly soon??
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767 courses appear to be every 4 weeks or so at the moment. 1 course starts at the beginning of May and 1 course at the end. After that I have no idea.
All the best
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Email received this morning, recruitment halted! tis the time to look deeply into myself, brush it off and crack on until I hear from them again. It's hard but I understand it. The recruitment team have a lot of changes going on at the moment re. BMI so difficult to predict. A lot of guys in hold pool for some time so they need to be sorted. It makes sense for a department to halt things for now. I bet their phones never stop ringing, if I was in their position I would have done the same. Nevertheless I am gutted!
Keep your chins up everyone, in the sim when it goes wrong you need to crack on and get the job done. This is just the same.
To the few who have a sim in March, best of British to you.
Keep your chins up everyone, in the sim when it goes wrong you need to crack on and get the job done. This is just the same.
To the few who have a sim in March, best of British to you.
My Internet connection has been unreliable but I did get an email from BA this morning informing me that, effectively, all recruitment of DEP has been called off. They are going to empty the hold pool in due course.
It is not completely clear what will happen to those in the mid-stage of the process if recruitment recommences.
Personally, I am surprised that a company the size of BA, let alone the IAG, could publicly announce massive recruitment plans and then drop them so suddenly - even if deep down we expected them to.
It seems that BA's recruitment bum and management elbow were a little dislocated when recruitment plans were penned.
MH152
It is not completely clear what will happen to those in the mid-stage of the process if recruitment recommences.
Personally, I am surprised that a company the size of BA, let alone the IAG, could publicly announce massive recruitment plans and then drop them so suddenly - even if deep down we expected them to.
It seems that BA's recruitment bum and management elbow were a little dislocated when recruitment plans were penned.
MH152
Cheers for the update mesh. Anybody with an idea about those stuck in limbo between day 1 and the sim? Would hope that if and when recruitment began again they would be called up for sim assessments without reapplying. Bit of a bugger though as recruitment was seemingly going ahead at a good pace just 2 weeks ago.
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I just received the email. I don't think BMI has any bearing with us, they are bringing their own aircraft, so its like nothing has changed. It might have an impact if they send the aircraft back to the leasors but thats about it.
Unfortunately we have to acknowledge the elephant in the living room, I really don't think aviation issues even come into the equation, for me I think BA are concerned about the economy and the effects of the looming Greek default plus the banging of the war drums in regards to Iran. If a conflict kicks off in the middle east its hello $200/barrel oil and any chance of a recovery up in smoke. I really hope I'm wrong but for me this is the only thing that makes sense..
I am extremely disappointed to say the least but will try and keep the faith as best as I can.
Unfortunately we have to acknowledge the elephant in the living room, I really don't think aviation issues even come into the equation, for me I think BA are concerned about the economy and the effects of the looming Greek default plus the banging of the war drums in regards to Iran. If a conflict kicks off in the middle east its hello $200/barrel oil and any chance of a recovery up in smoke. I really hope I'm wrong but for me this is the only thing that makes sense..
I am extremely disappointed to say the least but will try and keep the faith as best as I can.
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IAG profits soar
Things appear to be going well at the moment, but I agree with Threethirty. BA are being prudent.
Things appear to be going well at the moment, but I agree with Threethirty. BA are being prudent.