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[GetTheQRH]

Does anyone know what the basic salary is on the B-payscale for 1500-3000h applicants, and if it includes any variable pay on top?

Cheers!

[aot549566]

Originally Posted by GetTheQRH

Does anyone know what the basic salary is on the B-payscale for 1500-3000h applicants, and if it includes any variable pay on top?

Cheers!

I’m interested to also know the answer to this if anyone has an information available?

Cheers

[StopStart]

Year 1 FO - £63,500
Year 2 FO - £65,500
Year 3 SFO - £74,008

These figures are basic salary plus flying pay (fixed, non-variable 750hrs pa).
Occasional additional earnings available through overtime but no guarantee.

Finally, it isn’t a “B Scale” it’s just two extra rungs on the bottom of the existing seniority/pay ladder.

[aot549566]

Originally Posted by StopStart

Year 1 FO - £63,500
Year 2 FO - £65,500
Year 3 SFO - £74,008

These figures are basic salary plus flying pay (fixed, non-variable 750hrs pa).
Occasional additional earnings available through overtime but no guarantee.

Finally, it isn’t a “B Scale” it’s just two extra rungs on the bottom of the existing seniority/pay ladder.

That’s great thanks a lot. I assume flight pay and allowances is around £1000 per month. Any idea how much overtime is??

[jamesdean1]

Has anyone got through to the latter stages of the recruitment process with Zenon?
I believe the sim will be carried out in a 737. Does anyone know if it is similar to BA's fully manual 'LOE' style test?
And the interview with Virgin, does this sill include some technical questions, or is it assumed this has now been tested and its a more 'getting to know you' interview?

[Riskybis]

Originally Posted by jamesdean1

Has anyone got through to the latter stages of the recruitment process with Zenon?
I believe the sim will be carried out in a 737. Does anyone know if it is similar to BA's fully manual 'LOE' style test?
And the interview with Virgin, does this sill include some technical questions, or is it assumed this has now been tested and its a more 'getting to know you' interview?

its such a shame Virgin has followed the rest with these absurd HR dominated processes !
so many good guys and girls not getting a chance because they haven’t said the correct thing

[57driver]

Any info on what to expect in the first stages of the process? Just a chat about motivation for joining etc or is it worth brushing up any bits of knowledge?

TIA

[Black Pudding]

Originally Posted by aot549566

That’s great thanks a lot. I assume flight pay and allowances is around £1000 per month. Any idea how much overtime is??

The above post said These figures are basic salary plus flying pay (fixed, non-variable 750hrs pa). so not sure if additional pay is an option

[MostAnnoying]

Originally Posted by 57driver

Any info on what to expect in the first stages of the process? Just a chat about motivation for joining etc or is it worth brushing up any bits of knowledge?

TIA

Hi,

I've done the first 3 rounds with Zenon now. For the first round, don't worry at all. It will just be questions regarding your hours, current position and of course the question "why virgin?"

The second round consist of online testing, testing your english, maths and psychometric thinking. It's all based on "non-experience grading". So don't worry when you think you didn't do too well on a round, because there are a lot of tests where you can show your qualities. And, no one really knows what they look for in the tests.

The 3rd round is a competency based interview. Questions regarding how you would react. They have some questions where you have to explain certain situations during your career as 'outside of the box' and 'where did you go an extra mile'.

Hope this helps.

good luck

[Mrglass]

Originally Posted by NickJBax

Hi,

I've done the first 3 rounds with Zenon now. For the first round, don't worry at all. It will just be questions regarding your hours, current position and of course the question "why virgin?"

The second round consist of online testing, testing your english, maths and psychometric thinking. It's all based on "non-experience grading". So don't worry when you think you didn't do too well on a round, because there are a lot of tests where you can show your qualities. And, no one really knows what they look for in the tests.

The 3rd round is a competency based interview. Questions regarding how you would react. They have some questions where you have to explain certain situations during your career as 'outside of the box' and 'where did you go an extra mile'.

Hope this helps.

good luck

These 3 stages are all handled remotely? i.e phone and computer? What next? Is there a Sim? Can anyone detail the whole Zenon process from 1st call to holding pool? Thanks

[TheAirMission]

Originally Posted by Mrglass

These 3 stages are all handled remotely? i.e phone and computer? What next? Is there a Sim? Can anyone detail the whole Zenon process from 1st call to holding pool? Thanks

1) First call
2) online psychometric
3) Second call - competency
4) 737 sim @ Gatwick/Crawley
5) Virgin interview @ HQ - Scenario, technical, competency

[57driver]

Originally Posted by NickJBax

Hi,

I've done the first 3 rounds with Zenon now. For the first round, don't worry at all. It will just be questions regarding your hours, current position and of course the question "why virgin?"

The second round consist of online testing, testing your english, maths and psychometric thinking. It's all based on "non-experience grading". So don't worry when you think you didn't do too well on a round, because there are a lot of tests where you can show your qualities. And, no one really knows what they look for in the tests.

The 3rd round is a competency based interview. Questions regarding how you would react. They have some questions where you have to explain certain situations during your career as 'outside of the box' and 'where did you go an extra mile'.

Hope this helps.
good luck

Thanks, first telephone interview booked for next week.

[Uplinker]

Originally Posted by Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP

................Ask any of the TCX pilots that applied months ago only to be emailed yesterday that VS only want people that have flown within the last 6 months............

+1. I wish they had told us that before I sweated blood preparing for the telephone interviews and psychometric tests - including buying new computer equipment in order to 'fly' down the rotating well !

One has to wonder what VAA want. On the one hand, many years' experience flying the same aircraft, same routes and same destinations does not seem to interest them, but on the other hand they only want pilots who will have flown within the previous 6 months at the time of joining - (May this year). Since TCX went under at the end of September last year, that excludes us.

[Phantom4]

Sim ride LHR to LGW ,hold ,S/E or LGW to LHR hold S/E

[MSN001]

Reading the thread back to September it appears 2 new pay points have been introduced. Do all new recruits start on the bottom pay point? Is it possible to enter the pay scale at a different point depending on experience?

What is the criteria for promotion from First Officer to Senior First Officer?

[pudoc]

Join with 3000+ hours you go onto the original Senior FO scale. Join with 1500-3000 hours you start on the FO scale, after 2 years you'll move onto SFO scale scale regardless of hours. Not sure what happens if you join with 2500, and reach 3000 within the first year.

[MostAnnoying]

Originally Posted by Mrglass

These 3 stages are all handled remotely? i.e phone and computer? What next? Is there a Sim? Can anyone detail the whole Zenon process from 1st call to holding pool? Thanks

Hi,

the first 3 rounds are handled remotely, indeed. You'll initially have a phone call, then computer testing (make sure you have a mouse handy, because you need to do an assignment that is hard to do with a trackpad), then the 3rd one is again a phone interview.

After the 3rd round in can take quite a while, but can also be quick. this is because they send all your files, cv and results to VAA to check everything together. Once virgin is happy with that, they'll contact you to make an immediate simulator date. Give or take 3-5 days in between, fairly straight forward on an Fixed Base 737-800. LHR-LGW engine failure, hold, SE approach. second is LGW-LHR engine fire, hold, SE approach.

After this the result gets back to you quite quickly and you are able to make an appointment for the interview.

hope this helps.

good luck

[Meester proach]

Great shame they outsourced.

used to be an interview and nothing more ? Making the assumption anyone coming with the experience required can do the flying bit

[TheAirMission]

Not everyone has been having engine failures, guys I know just had standard flights with gen handling. Do they give you guidance prior to the S/E? Seems a bit unfair to give someone who hasn't flown a boeing a S/E with no prior knowledge.

[MostAnnoying]

Originally Posted by TheAirMission

Not everyone has been having engine failures, guys I know just had standard flights with gen handling. Do they give you guidance prior to the S/E? Seems a bit unfair to give someone who hasn't flown a boeing a S/E with no prior knowledge.

When invited for the sim assessment, you receive a briefing package. this package contains information what you might be able to expect. It says you get a non-normal, but indeed it does seem a bit unfair for non-boeing rated pilots to handle it.

An acquaintance of mine informed me that only rated pilots get the SE-approach.