Virgin recruiting soon...
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Probably been discussed before many times, but how is fleet selection at VS done? Is it purely specific fleet need or does experience on Boeing or Airbus influence fleet selection?
On which fleet have recent newhires been placed?
Cheers
On which fleet have recent newhires been placed?
Cheers
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From: The IMF.
Virgin have a good record of taking people on, and then making them redundant.
I would know.
In the current circumstances, and let me review them briefly, why would you possibly want to go to VAA:
1) Sovereign Debt Crisis;
2) New Credit Crunch Looming;
3) Reduced consumer spending;
4) UK economy arguably in recession again;
5) Lower business travel spending;
6) Astraeus bankruptcy;
7) Thomas Cook lurching towards massive restructuring/bankruptcy;
8) The company having a DISMAL track record of making people redundant;
9) Being number 700+ on a seniority list with only 300 or so Captains, and;
10) The prospect of never reaching Command in VAA.
Any reasons for wanting to join, apart from currently working at TCX, or as of yesterday AEU?
If you joined a few years ago, avoided 2 brutal cutbacks in the 2000's and are still there, then it IS a great job. If not, I'd consider carefully before leaving a "stable" airline for a career at VAA.
Caveat Emptor.
I would know.
In the current circumstances, and let me review them briefly, why would you possibly want to go to VAA:
1) Sovereign Debt Crisis;
2) New Credit Crunch Looming;
3) Reduced consumer spending;
4) UK economy arguably in recession again;
5) Lower business travel spending;
6) Astraeus bankruptcy;
7) Thomas Cook lurching towards massive restructuring/bankruptcy;
8) The company having a DISMAL track record of making people redundant;
9) Being number 700+ on a seniority list with only 300 or so Captains, and;
10) The prospect of never reaching Command in VAA.
Any reasons for wanting to join, apart from currently working at TCX, or as of yesterday AEU?
If you joined a few years ago, avoided 2 brutal cutbacks in the 2000's and are still there, then it IS a great job. If not, I'd consider carefully before leaving a "stable" airline for a career at VAA.
Caveat Emptor.
Last edited by Narrow Runway; 22nd November 2011 at 14:36.
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From: hertfordshire
You're not a cheerful chappy narrow runway!
Harsh words about Astraeus,
Harsh words about Ryanair/low cost,
Harsh words about Virgin Atlantic,
Just a general miserable pessimistic attitude really.
What's the problem?
Harsh words about Astraeus,
Harsh words about Ryanair/low cost,
Harsh words about Virgin Atlantic,
Just a general miserable pessimistic attitude really.
What's the problem?

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From: in my own world
Glass half empty or full?
Life's always a gamble. I would probably stay in a stable, secure job at the moment but the chance of joining somewhere that gives you long haul and a good quality of life is tempting.
If major airlines do crumble (hopefully not) then someone has to fill in the gaps, so it could be a good time to join...
Life's always a gamble. I would probably stay in a stable, secure job at the moment but the chance of joining somewhere that gives you long haul and a good quality of life is tempting.
If major airlines do crumble (hopefully not) then someone has to fill in the gaps, so it could be a good time to join...
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From: Cloud 9
You're not a cheerful chappy narrow runway!
Harsh words about Astraeus,
Harsh words about Ryanair/low cost,
Harsh words about Virgin Atlantic,
Just a general miserable pessimistic attitude really.
What's the problem?
He's always been a miserable bar steward but he's a big softie when you get to know him ;-)
Harsh words about Astraeus,
Harsh words about Ryanair/low cost,
Harsh words about Virgin Atlantic,
Just a general miserable pessimistic attitude really.
What's the problem?
He's always been a miserable bar steward but he's a big softie when you get to know him ;-)
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From: Cloud Cookoo Land
Ahem, yes...joining VS at the present time, when things are, well; not to put too finer a point on it...!!!!e! I would think twice. There is just a little chance of history repeating. And it repeats over and over again at Virgin.
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From: The IMF.
I am truly sorry if my interpretation of VAA history upsets those of you who are about to join.
I very much hope that your time at the bottom of the seniority list is less eventful than that of many others, myself included.
Perhaps this downturn will be somehow different.
As for Astraeus, I have no sympathy for an airline and its management that tried to undercut everybody else and willingly signed up to Union busting activities. I do however have sympathy for the hard working employees who did nothing but work hard - or follow a dream.
As for Astraeus 2? It seems more likely that a training organisation is all that a certain someone wants.
Run to the hills.........
I very much hope that your time at the bottom of the seniority list is less eventful than that of many others, myself included.
Perhaps this downturn will be somehow different.
As for Astraeus, I have no sympathy for an airline and its management that tried to undercut everybody else and willingly signed up to Union busting activities. I do however have sympathy for the hard working employees who did nothing but work hard - or follow a dream.
As for Astraeus 2? It seems more likely that a training organisation is all that a certain someone wants.
Run to the hills.........

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From: EGSS
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From: FL400
Guys,
Has anyone been able to actually apply? I can't get past the initial questions but just keep getting this message:
"Session expired
Why does my session expire?
This could be either...
For your security, your session expires after 10 minutes of no activity. This means no link has been clicked or data has been submitted in last 10 minutes.
You have entered the URL of a particular page, which cannot be viewed without prior authentication."
Any ideas?
Second question, potentially a dumb one - does anyone know if its worth applying with slightly less than 3000 hours in anticipation of having the hours in a few months? Or is it 3000 hours on application only? I can't find any info on this...
Has anyone been able to actually apply? I can't get past the initial questions but just keep getting this message:
"Session expired
Why does my session expire?
This could be either...
For your security, your session expires after 10 minutes of no activity. This means no link has been clicked or data has been submitted in last 10 minutes.
You have entered the URL of a particular page, which cannot be viewed without prior authentication."
Any ideas?
Second question, potentially a dumb one - does anyone know if its worth applying with slightly less than 3000 hours in anticipation of having the hours in a few months? Or is it 3000 hours on application only? I can't find any info on this...



