BA Cityflyer Recruiting
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Scotland
Nope. It's before tax and now also our Flight Duty Pay gets taxed. I know, it's a shocker BUT it was even worse only a couple of years ago. (24k in year 1 and 28K in year 2 and all before tax) Try living in London with that!
As RJ_Rantster already said, it's something to do with the capet pay scales. It's supposedly only for 1 year and then onto 35.5K before tax thereafter. (still bad I know)
Still waiting on official confirmation so hang tight...
As RJ_Rantster already said, it's something to do with the capet pay scales. It's supposedly only for 1 year and then onto 35.5K before tax thereafter. (still bad I know)
Still waiting on official confirmation so hang tight...
Joined: Feb 2001
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From: London down town
i think this pay thing needs to be clarified, This is just what i am led to understand and could be very wrong but the pay DB is quoting was the cadet pay. For a direct entry F/O not out of training college that has flown a commercial type, the pay should be full year one and not the cadet rate for the first two years.
So in theory the cadets in the holding pool will be on the cadet pay as per there agreement and other direct entry will be on full pay.
Bond will be two years in all cases.
So in theory the cadets in the holding pool will be on the cadet pay as per there agreement and other direct entry will be on full pay.
Bond will be two years in all cases.
Joined: May 2002
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From: LONDON
Has anyone been able to contact HR regarding these anomalies with the application form? I submitted my app before these new sections appeared on the form re Education, etc. I can't withdraw and resubmit the system tells me 
I sent an email but no response...
I sent an email but no response...
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Button Moon
Hmmmm..... I've just emailed the generic email address for BACF HR.
My brother works for BA mainline, I'll see if he can dig out a number for them and go from there. Will let you know if I get anywhere.
Cheers
2W2R
My brother works for BA mainline, I'll see if he can dig out a number for them and go from there. Will let you know if I get anywhere.
Cheers
2W2R
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Where the sun goes
Hello all of you,
I hope this will help some of you!
As I applied before the applications changed, I didn't have to write about my education and employment history.
So, when I noticed the changes, I called HR and they told me not to worry about that and that they will mostly look at our CV's.
Another thing, maybe the non-UK citizens couldn't change there countries in the application, UK seems to be the default one and one can't change it.
I talked to them about that as well and told me the problem was known and not an issue at all, once again, the CV is the main element they look at apparently.
Hope this helps you!
Take care, good luck to all of you (and me
) and fly safe.
Garba.
I hope this will help some of you!
As I applied before the applications changed, I didn't have to write about my education and employment history.
So, when I noticed the changes, I called HR and they told me not to worry about that and that they will mostly look at our CV's.
Another thing, maybe the non-UK citizens couldn't change there countries in the application, UK seems to be the default one and one can't change it.
I talked to them about that as well and told me the problem was known and not an issue at all, once again, the CV is the main element they look at apparently.
Hope this helps you!
Take care, good luck to all of you (and me
) and fly safe.Garba.
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Where the sun goes
CW,
You and the others should look and read carefully the FAQ as there is the direct HR number. If it is not in the FAQ, then it is somewhere in their website.
Once, before the recruitment opened, I called BA Mainline in order to get a number I could join BACF with. They told me that only one number was available to them and this one was internal.
Once again, read the BACF website FAQ and you should probably get the HR number on it.
Regards,
Garba.
You and the others should look and read carefully the FAQ as there is the direct HR number. If it is not in the FAQ, then it is somewhere in their website.
Once, before the recruitment opened, I called BA Mainline in order to get a number I could join BACF with. They told me that only one number was available to them and this one was internal.
Once again, read the BACF website FAQ and you should probably get the HR number on it.
Regards,
Garba.
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Scotland
A quick search on google: United Kingdom: BA CityFlyer
Call the number and simply ask for HR.
EDIT - Just spotted this is the same google page as CW. See hown simple it is...
Call the number and simply ask for HR.
EDIT - Just spotted this is the same google page as CW. See hown simple it is...
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: EDI
Dutch Bird
Re: the BA interview. Way back when we were CitiExpress we were indeed guaranteed and interview and supposedly escaped the group exercises, however everyone I knew who applied did the group ex. Now as BA Cityflyer that agreement is no longer in place so our applications are treated just like anyone else's.
No longer any special treatment, even though we have aligned our interview process to more like mainlines.
RJ.
No longer any special treatment, even though we have aligned our interview process to more like mainlines.RJ.
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: UK
Online Application
Chaps,
Has anybody else noticed that when reviewing the application before submitting, it omits your NI number details that you originally inputted? When you go back to the personal details section to re-insert, its no longer there to amend?
Any solution, or is it just a case of hitting the submit button?
Has anybody else noticed that when reviewing the application before submitting, it omits your NI number details that you originally inputted? When you go back to the personal details section to re-insert, its no longer there to amend?
Any solution, or is it just a case of hitting the submit button?
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From: Button Moon
When I went through and checked the form before hitting 'submit', my NI number was present. But after I had submitted I printed a copy to PDF format for my own records the NI number had vanished. So I went through my profile on the BACF careers site any my NI number was still in there. Thus I'm not too concerned as they do have it on record.
I'm only in my mid-20's so am by no means a 'tecnhophobe' but there seems to be an awful lot of problems with online applications to airlines as a whole. Jet 2 being another one that many people (including me) had problems with.
Bring back the paper and pen I say!!!!
Evening All
2W2R
I'm only in my mid-20's so am by no means a 'tecnhophobe' but there seems to be an awful lot of problems with online applications to airlines as a whole. Jet 2 being another one that many people (including me) had problems with.
Bring back the paper and pen I say!!!!
Evening All
2W2R
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: United Kingdom
References
The nature of our business means that safety and security are paramount considerations.
In this section you will be asked to provide a full 5-year reference history with all gaps covered. If you have gaps of 14 days or more you will be required to provide personal referees to cover these.
The nature of our business means that safety and security are paramount considerations.
In this section you will be asked to provide a full 5-year reference history with all gaps covered. If you have gaps of 14 days or more you will be required to provide personal referees to cover these.
Also, regarding the NI number, mine did not show up in the review section either, but it was definately listed in the main personal details section of the website when I went back and checked.
I agree with the above, paper and pen is the way forward!
Joined: May 2001
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From: England
The BACF application is the same one from 2004/2005 (yep, I was a wannabe back then too! 
). I doubt very much it gets maintained by the IT department and besides what would they know about it's shortcomings unless someone from HR/recruitment told them? For that to happen the recruiter would've had to go through the entire process themselves in order to realise (I doubt very much they did that). Clearly, they're not interested in making it the perfect application form (I'd be lieing if I said I ever saw one!), so it's safe to assume all they're interested in is capturing the most important details. Name, address, license, credit ca.. (wait wrong airline!)
). I doubt very much it gets maintained by the IT department and besides what would they know about it's shortcomings unless someone from HR/recruitment told them? For that to happen the recruiter would've had to go through the entire process themselves in order to realise (I doubt very much they did that). Clearly, they're not interested in making it the perfect application form (I'd be lieing if I said I ever saw one!), so it's safe to assume all they're interested in is capturing the most important details. Name, address, license, credit ca.. (wait wrong airline!)
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: Only an ocean away
Probably a little premature as we're still two days away from the closing date, but has anyone heard anything yet?
EDIT: Just received the email asking for a reply if unable to make one of the four dates in November.
EDIT: Just received the email asking for a reply if unable to make one of the four dates in November.
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Victoria
I just got this:
Thank you for your recent application for First Officers E-Jet Series Aircraft with BA CityFlyer. We are currently in the process of shortlisting for the current vacancies.
Please be advised that those shortlisted will be invited to a one day Pilot Assessment Centre at Didsbury, Manchester on the following days:
-Monday 8th November
-Tuesday 9th November
-Wednesday 10th November
-Thursday 11th November 2010
Thank you for your recent application for First Officers E-Jet Series Aircraft with BA CityFlyer. We are currently in the process of shortlisting for the current vacancies.
Please be advised that those shortlisted will be invited to a one day Pilot Assessment Centre at Didsbury, Manchester on the following days:
-Monday 8th November
-Tuesday 9th November
-Wednesday 10th November
-Thursday 11th November 2010