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Old 17th Oct 2010, 16:21
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 16:27
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Alex the Meercat:

you must really love Pprune to put an internal memo talking about company strategy in an open forum such as this. Besides the fact that it will be sackable offense I would suggest that it is quite daft to give (any part of) the game away to our competitors for the sake of making an obscure point to strangers on the net. There is always the delete button......

And now look what the cat brought in!

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 16:33
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Another thing WWW,

DEC's came in and contributed greatly to the company brining a wealth of experience and knowledge to the company
A glaring example of why DEC's are such a Titanic risk
You're sounding more and more confused and desperate old son.
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 22:58
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Leo Hairy Camel - we are indeed honoured, nay humbled, by your participation in this gutter-level discussion on such mundane issues as easyJet seniority and future recruitment plans. I trust the Pikey Emporium is treating you well and that your Lord and Master, King Michael the Belligerent of Dublin holds you close to his bosom. As so often in the past, you made me roar with laughter and your contribution is indeed much appreciated by me at least!

Major - I really do not know what you are doing here, looking for an argument on just about any issue. Deeply impressed as we all are by your George Cross in the Cod War, DFC and Bar in the Third CAA Pilgrimage to Constantinople etc, not to mention the 65 years' loyal service to the Blind Horse Flying Association of Calcutta, it really is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Once we got onto the compliance with EU-OPS, I nearly had to take smelling salts to regain consciousness. I understand you do not like easyJet - that is absolutely fine, but even you must see it cannot be all bad here given the number of people champing at the bit to get in. For what it is worth, WWW is my mate and I actually think he speaks a lot of sense. I understand his style may not be to everyone's taste, but he is knowledgeable on a vast range of issues, both in and out of the industry. Give him a chance and he may even be able to participate in a sensible discussion on all the largely irrelevant issues you want to bring up.

Calypso - I note that Alexander de Meerkat (whose name you cannot even spell) seems to have been scared off and removed his quite informative post. I would hardly have called it state secrets, and his departure from the scene of battle is regrettable due to his apparent inside knowledge of what the real deal is on contracts etc. Nonetheless, I would like to encourage him to return in the future.

Doug the Head. Inspiring as your words are to the less informed, I am struggling to recall a single positive suggestion from you of any kind that would have prevented any of the abuses you so resent happening at easyJet. Your stated position is one of hating the ground easyJet was built on and that fundamentally we are all doomed. Anyone who stays here is a loser and anyone who sees any good in easyJet is just a management stooge. Real men should just slit their wrists in the cockpit to punish easyJet for existing. Try as I might, I have yet to see one single sensible suggestion from you as to a credible course of action in your dealings with the company. Should we just bankrupt easyJet to show 'them' just how bad things are? Yes - let's do that as that would show them. I am looking for concrete, credible suggestions. I will strike like anyone else for the right reason - and there have been a number of them. What I will not do is bring down the company just because we can - that is utter insanity.

737Jock - very interesting discussion about the French etc. I think there may be some merit in your argument. I certainly will be in discussion with our BALPA reps about a more united front.

This thread has run its course for me. There are some serious knuckleheads here who seem unable to grasp the essence of the discussion. The bottom line is that we will fight tooth and nail to prevent DECs as long as we have promotable FOs - a concept that exists in every other respectable airline of note. Whether we need them or not will be seen in the next year or so - my firm belief is we will not and should not give into the alleged need to do so if it is presented to us. Thanks for the chat guys - but I must return back to my lair to attend to more pressing matters.
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 01:27
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The bottom line is that we will fight tooth and nail to prevent DECs as long as we have promotable FOs - a concept that exists in every other respectable airline of note
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I think the 'other is in the wrong place here, I suggest this should read:

The bottom line is that we will fight tooth and nail to prevent OTHER DECs as long as we have promotable FOs - a concept that exists in every respectable airline of note.

There you are, much more accurate.

Look at the list of easyJet directors on their website. Is there one Director connected with the actual operation of the aircraft?

No? So what is not what is easyJet about? Flying aircraft or sales and marketing.

If easyJet pilots want real improvement in their lot they should choose the best representatives they can. For example a DEC arguing against DECs will be laughed out of town.

I suggest all easyJet pilots watch these. Very accurate.

http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...tle-humor.html

Note the line: 'Your seniority system means you have no leverage'.

By the way he who cannot be named, keeps praising my exploits and naming me. Do you think he is allegedly 'grooming' me for something. I hope not as that would be very bad form here on pprune old chap.

And what am I doing here? Posting comment on a freely accessable bulletin board available on the world wide web. This bulletin board and this topic are freely available to everyone, anywhere in the world regardless of creed, colour (including orange) age etc etc. This is freedom. It does not belong to easyJet, easyJet pilots or the lecturing, condescending, holier than you, Captain 'who's name I cannot mention but he is a baldy Scottish Training Captain', of easyjet.

Bye bye,


Major Cleve Saville

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Old 18th Oct 2010, 12:04
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DEC's will be back at EZY yesterday if the DEC T&C's are <90% of the existing ones...

Hell, I might even apply.



I imagine such T&C's will be resisted with the same kind of conviction the Flexicrew contracts were resisted with...

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Old 18th Oct 2010, 12:11
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This is PPRuNe. Not the Womens Royal Auxillary Balloon Corps so dry your eyes darling.
Quite.
However I was referring to the lack of intelligence in your "arse" comment. Not really interested in the emotion you wish to portray either. As stated, I expected better of you, based on having read your postings in the past.

I was calling for an end to the childishness displayed here, but like as not it won't happen. Hence the WRABC would probably be an excellent analogy. You could learn much from Leo HC regarding provocation: he is at least intelligent and extremely funny therein.

As for the subject of this thread, the question has been answered: yes there will, but only for a select few with the correct low number of hours, the correct weighting in the appropriate banking circle, and the money to support same, and the correct qualification from the approved school (pun intended). The rest of us need not apply.
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 12:29
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I certainly will be in discussion with our BALPA reps about a more united front
Will you also be in discussion about EJs pay to fly scheme? It is p2f no matter how deep you bury your head in the sand.
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 15:31
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Wether you like it or not revealing inside information IS a sackable offense and hence not very clever. I could have made the effort to spell his username but frankly I could not be bothered.

Digs at spelling in pprune = yawn!
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 18:05
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In a decade of working in this company I know of only 3 Captains who "left". All DEC's.
Have you actually met anybody who wanted to join?

Apart from..........

The ex-legacy lot who are pension topping.
The GB pilots who relucantly came via the take-over.
The CTC/OAT cadets who are placed here (and really dont care where they start with £100k of debt and interest building.)

Or.......

The former BMI pilots who came over purely for DEC positions in 07/08...
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 20:16
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Cher Leo,
Didn't hear from you for so long, but what a "comeback".
Always in need of a larf,and for the second consecutive day you have provided it, thanks me old mucker.
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 02:35
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I see that Easyjet pilot recruitment page now has links to CTC, OAA and Parc which would suggest that they need pilots. As far as I can see though still no opportunity for expierienced FOs unless rated on the Airbus. Would I be correct in saying that there is still no way in for experienced Boeing FOs?
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 06:47
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Would I be correct in saying that there is still no way in for experienced Boeing FOs?
You should add also Airbus FOs since it's better to hire willing to pay FOs with no-TR then hire TR FOs who wants to be paid! P2F program it's better for the schools, the company and ... in case of an other downturn it's Easy to send people home since they are just kids!
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 08:18
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The boeing fleet number will be down to 2 in the early spring, so pretty much a plane of the past in orange land.
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 10:14
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This is frustrating!

I have approaching 2000 hours, lots of multi crew hours on biz jets and light turboprops but no airline is interested in me unless I pay them for training.

What choice have I got? Been made redundant twice in last 2 years, haven't worked full-time in over a year, only crumbs of freelance but still current on type with class 1 medical.

Too far gone down the road to pull out of aviation and almost 40 years of age so time not on my side!

What choice have I got other than the dreadful P2F schemes to get flying again?? Apparently I am too old for the CTC scheme and have "too much" experience!

I bet if I enquire I'll be too old for the P2F schemes as well!
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 10:49
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At a recent briefing with a manager i was told that the aim in Ezy is to up the crewing levels, so we will have 6 crew pr aircraft in stead of the current 4.8 (or thereabout) we have now.

That put together with new aircrafts coming, lots of upgrades, a fair amount of people leaving and better cadet contracts in other airlines, one can only hope we will run out of people willing to work on the cadet contracts so more experienced guys can join as well.

I hasten to say that the info was delivered verbally, so no guarantee their plans will still be the same tomorrow.
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 15:21
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Cool

Hello,

I'm qualified on airbus 320 (but no hours on type) and I would like to fly for easyjet.

I'have been on easyjet website and found that : Pilot Careers - Careers in the Air - easyJet Careers

CTC flexi crew
Parc Aviation.

How does CTC flexi crew work?Is there a chance they call me? I can't find anything about easyjet on Parc website.

Thanks

BR
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 20:14
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Speak to Kallipso - he seems to know about company policy, even if he can't spell. Alas, Superpilot is right as far as I know - you will, generally speaking, require 150 hours on-type. There are exceptions, but that would only be if you were an experienced pilot on other commercial types (146, 737 etc). Hope that helps.
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Old 16th Nov 2010, 07:57
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Ok! thank you Norman Stanley Fletcher and Superpilot! So 150 hours for parc, but what about flexi crew via ctc?
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Old 16th Nov 2010, 08:40
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... as far as I know - you will, generally speaking, require 150 hours on-type. There are exceptions, but that would only be if you were an experienced pilot on other commercial types (146, 737 etc)...
Last I heard it was 500 hours on type required. Possibly things have changed and maybe NSF is more up to date than me but I would check with the company first.
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