P2F Cancer of Aviation (merged)/ petitions.
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I think people are forgetting what their current union is for....... its to represent them but currently there is no cause to fight for because you cant get people to agree on what the issues are because some issues affect some and other issues affect others.
What no one seems to want to look at is the profession as a whole. It seems that no one gives a stuff about the profession any longer. Of course the profession has to adapt to modern times, but who is going to define what the profession should be? Who makes the profession what it is? Who is shaping the profession? Who ultimately is taking any responsibility as to how the profession evolves?
Do you want that to be Mr J CRUD and others like him?
or do you want it to be you?
The real cancer here is not so much P2F and the evolution of it, its the total apathy of the people that can bring about change, but choose not to. Those who choose to whinge about it it rather than doing something about it.
Pilots have abdicated their responsibilities to the profession. People love causes and the cause should be to save the profession. To not allow the likes of CRUD to define it. Rather than whining on PPRuNe, write to your CC's. Tell your trusted colleagues you have done so and encourage them to do the same. Take some responsibility and you will feel good about it. People will begin to listen. Trust me..... its how humans work.
Dont waste your time answering me, use that time to articulate your concerns to YOUR union. Give BALPA something to do. Flood them with e-mails and letters if you have to. Its you who pay the subs.....use it. Dont throw it away. Your CC's are there as your local reps. Give them a reason to represent you. Wheels turn slowly but only if you give them a reason to turn.
A great Profession demands Great T's & C's. A S**t Profession equates to S**t T's & C's. Make the profession better and your lives will be better. Its up to you to decide if its something thats worth fighting for. Personally i think it is............ with or without you.
GW
What no one seems to want to look at is the profession as a whole. It seems that no one gives a stuff about the profession any longer. Of course the profession has to adapt to modern times, but who is going to define what the profession should be? Who makes the profession what it is? Who is shaping the profession? Who ultimately is taking any responsibility as to how the profession evolves?
Do you want that to be Mr J CRUD and others like him?
or do you want it to be you?
The real cancer here is not so much P2F and the evolution of it, its the total apathy of the people that can bring about change, but choose not to. Those who choose to whinge about it it rather than doing something about it.
Pilots have abdicated their responsibilities to the profession. People love causes and the cause should be to save the profession. To not allow the likes of CRUD to define it. Rather than whining on PPRuNe, write to your CC's. Tell your trusted colleagues you have done so and encourage them to do the same. Take some responsibility and you will feel good about it. People will begin to listen. Trust me..... its how humans work.
Dont waste your time answering me, use that time to articulate your concerns to YOUR union. Give BALPA something to do. Flood them with e-mails and letters if you have to. Its you who pay the subs.....use it. Dont throw it away. Your CC's are there as your local reps. Give them a reason to represent you. Wheels turn slowly but only if you give them a reason to turn.
A great Profession demands Great T's & C's. A S**t Profession equates to S**t T's & C's. Make the profession better and your lives will be better. Its up to you to decide if its something thats worth fighting for. Personally i think it is............ with or without you.
GW
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A Real Proffesion(mainly men)
As an ex Licensed Aircraft Engineer, I now wonder why an earth I retrained to fly aeroplanes for a living(12 years commercial, now a regional captain) .This so called proffesion has become a sick joke with the minorites and pay to fly given preference(regardless of ability). I am considering going back to a proffesion where competance counts.
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ahahah, I have probably more money than these schmucks who pay to fly.
they make me laugh with their 100, 300 or even 500h airbus.
they still dont have a job, no money...
i got the money, and i got jobs, and never paid to work....
have fun in your 320/737 carousel...at the end of the day, even the poor guys in india who work for 0.20$ make more money than these P2F pilots.
aviation is the gangraine of the mind!
"i wana fly, I wana fly" yeah, blah, blah...go play and come back to pay Mister manager for your next 500h, moron!!!!
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they make me laugh with their 100, 300 or even 500h airbus.
they still dont have a job, no money...
i got the money, and i got jobs, and never paid to work....
have fun in your 320/737 carousel...at the end of the day, even the poor guys in india who work for 0.20$ make more money than these P2F pilots.
aviation is the gangraine of the mind!
"i wana fly, I wana fly" yeah, blah, blah...go play and come back to pay Mister manager for your next 500h, moron!!!!
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