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Did some digging on their website.
So even if you are type rated and have experience on the 737 or 757 (types they operate) you still have to sign a training bond with them - WHAT THE
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Outrageous.
So even if you are type rated and have experience on the 737 or 757 (types they operate) you still have to sign a training bond with them - WHAT THE
!Outrageous.
The salary is £41,064 which is effective after probation. The probationary salary (from day after licence endorsement) is £35,700 and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training.
Seems pretty good to me
Seems pretty good to me
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Being bonded for training costs even when joining type rated is acceptable even though this is usually 6 months.
With regards to the salary mentioned above, this is for non experienced type rated guys as it also mentioned base training provided. So surely when joining type rated with a significant amount of hours one can expect to start with a SFO salary??
With regards to the salary mentioned above, this is for non experienced type rated guys as it also mentioned base training provided. So surely when joining type rated with a significant amount of hours one can expect to start with a SFO salary??
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I'm glad there is recruitment and even more so that its my own airline.
However, last I had heard, there was still quite a few in the hold pool?
Don't be surprised if the contract is an 80% one.
If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2)
There is a large fleet transfer list and it would have been nice to see a move up for some of the F/O's. Although I fully understand the cost savings by employing type rated pilots.
Lets hope then, we can get some good 737 / 757 rated guys. Charter & longhaul background would be good from my point of view, especially with the routes we do now and the ones that are rumored for the future.
Any news on the Chief Pilot role or has the company finally realised how hard it will be to replace the fantastic one we had!!!!!
However, last I had heard, there was still quite a few in the hold pool?
Don't be surprised if the contract is an 80% one.
If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2)
There is a large fleet transfer list and it would have been nice to see a move up for some of the F/O's. Although I fully understand the cost savings by employing type rated pilots.
Lets hope then, we can get some good 737 / 757 rated guys. Charter & longhaul background would be good from my point of view, especially with the routes we do now and the ones that are rumored for the future.
Any news on the Chief Pilot role or has the company finally realised how hard it will be to replace the fantastic one we had!!!!!
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Posted by Squawkident
The salary is £41,064 which is effective after probation. The probationary salary (from day after licence endorsement) is £35,700 and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training.
Seems pretty good to me
Seems pretty good to me
This is for first officers!!
Captains rates below
Captains rates below
The salary is £66,024 which is effective after probation. The
probationary salary is £60,180, and the full salary is
implemented two months after the successful completion of
line training.
probationary salary is £60,180, and the full salary is
implemented two months after the successful completion of
line training.
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Surely in the current economy most would be glad to stay with the same airline for 3 or more years... Although not usual, can't see how the bond would bother people, really. 
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If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2)
The act which can be read in full here specifically states in the very first article of said chapter:
Access to employment
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Refusal of employment on grounds related to union membership .(1)
It is unlawful to refuse a person employment— .
(a)
because he is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or .
(b)
because he is unwilling to accept a requirement— .
(i)
to take steps to become or cease to be, or to remain or not to become, a member of a trade union, or .
(ii)
to make payments or suffer deductions in the event of his not being a member of a trade union. .
(2)
A person who is thus unlawfully refused employment has a right of complaint to an industrial tribunal. .
(3)
Where an advertisement is published which indicates, or might reasonably be understood as indicating— .
(a)
that employment to which the advertisement relates is open only to a person who is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or .
(b)
that any such requirement as is mentioned in subsection (1)(b) will be imposed in relation to employment to which the advertisement relates, .
a person who does not satisfy that condition or, as the case may be, is unwilling to accept that requirement, and who seeks and is refused employment to which the advertisement relates, shall be conclusively presumed to have been refused employment for that reason.
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Refusal of employment on grounds related to union membership .(1)
It is unlawful to refuse a person employment— .
(a)
because he is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or .
(b)
because he is unwilling to accept a requirement— .
(i)
to take steps to become or cease to be, or to remain or not to become, a member of a trade union, or .
(ii)
to make payments or suffer deductions in the event of his not being a member of a trade union. .
(2)
A person who is thus unlawfully refused employment has a right of complaint to an industrial tribunal. .
(3)
Where an advertisement is published which indicates, or might reasonably be understood as indicating— .
(a)
that employment to which the advertisement relates is open only to a person who is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or .
(b)
that any such requirement as is mentioned in subsection (1)(b) will be imposed in relation to employment to which the advertisement relates, .
a person who does not satisfy that condition or, as the case may be, is unwilling to accept that requirement, and who seeks and is refused employment to which the advertisement relates, shall be conclusively presumed to have been refused employment for that reason.
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Can anybody give an indication how much one could expect to receive in duty pay and sector pay in a typical summer month? It's difficult to estimate what a type-rated captain could come out with after tax. Any figures would be much appreciated.
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Personally, I thinks it's great that in this economic downturn that an airline is in a position to recruit. If I were out of a job right now I would jump at the chance to get my income back and pay the bills etc...
The bond is neither here nor there, I know it may seem OTT if you are already type rated, but really it only comes into play if you leave within the year which is not likely to happen is it!
If you don't like the sound of the job on offer then don't apply. If you can be that picky then you obviously don't need the job that much, so stay away and give someone who needs/want's the job a chance.
Good luck to those who do apply.
The bond is neither here nor there, I know it may seem OTT if you are already type rated, but really it only comes into play if you leave within the year which is not likely to happen is it!
If you don't like the sound of the job on offer then don't apply. If you can be that picky then you obviously don't need the job that much, so stay away and give someone who needs/want's the job a chance.
Good luck to those who do apply.
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MPH read again......it IS free of charge! but should you leave within one year you will be charged the proportion left of 6k that covers the cost of the OCC (operator conversion course). Not unreasonable.
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I think what the other posters are getting at is why the hell should you be bonded for company related training?
What other jobs are there out there that do that? You join a company with a licence and a type rating and years of experience, if they want you to work for them then should be happy to invest a small amount in a little bit of training that THEY require you to have.
What other industry does this??????
What other jobs are there out there that do that? You join a company with a licence and a type rating and years of experience, if they want you to work for them then should be happy to invest a small amount in a little bit of training that THEY require you to have.
What other industry does this??????
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I joined one of the largest UK charter in 2005 type rated and signed for a £2400 bond over a 6 month period to cover the company conversion training...no big deal!
6K over 12 months is slithly more but provided that you sign the contract with the intention to stay then what is the issue here?
Especially in these times where more and more pilots are looking for any temporary flying job just to keep filling their logbooks and paying their bills who will then move on when something better comes along it is completely acceptable to show some sort of commitment by signing this bond.
End of this discussion if you ask me...time to focus on what really matters as T & C, future outlook of Jet2.com etc!
6K over 12 months is slithly more but provided that you sign the contract with the intention to stay then what is the issue here?
Especially in these times where more and more pilots are looking for any temporary flying job just to keep filling their logbooks and paying their bills who will then move on when something better comes along it is completely acceptable to show some sort of commitment by signing this bond.
End of this discussion if you ask me...time to focus on what really matters as T & C, future outlook of Jet2.com etc!
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Guys,
Jet2 is low-cost in every sense of the word!
It costs ANY company to train their employees, so all Jet2 are doing is safeguarding their initial outlay by asking for a financial commitment commensurate with training costs. Not too unresonable I think???!!! Pilots are notoriously expensive to train, so in these somewhat turbulant times they are doing as they are asking us all to do - cut costs....not unique to Jet2, ALL airlines are doing it!
I've been with them for nearly 3 years, you will only get Senior First Officer recognition after 2 years service, no matter how many hours on type or previous commercial experience you have, so if 2 stripes hurts your ego I would look else where!
The company is, in my eyes, a good place to work. Yes it's not great, but where is nowerdays? It is one of the VERY few airlines set to employ next year, although it looks likely to be on a Summer basis only.
Yes, £35,700 is CR*P, but Jet2 offers a good training department, pretty stable rosters (disclaimer: pretty)and a great bunch of people to work with.
Good luck to all, won't suit all, but certainly a good start airline, as I'm sure Jet2 will find out when other Airlines start employing and many leave us!!!
Jet2 is low-cost in every sense of the word!
I think what the other posters are getting at is why the hell should you be bonded for company related training?
So surely when joining type rated with a significant amount of hours one can expect to start with a SFO salary??
The company is, in my eyes, a good place to work. Yes it's not great, but where is nowerdays? It is one of the VERY few airlines set to employ next year, although it looks likely to be on a Summer basis only.
Yes, £35,700 is CR*P, but Jet2 offers a good training department, pretty stable rosters (disclaimer: pretty)and a great bunch of people to work with.
Good luck to all, won't suit all, but certainly a good start airline, as I'm sure Jet2 will find out when other Airlines start employing and many leave us!!!
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CAT1 reversion,
Do you actually know any pilot who joined type rated with significant hours on type? Perhaps this is the first time they will take on experienced guys and the higher SFO pay will come into play from the start?
Being a 2 striper for 2 years when joining with no experience is acceptable just as other airlines require you to unfreeze your license to upgrade to 3 stripes. However, when joining with SFO experience it is being taken for a ride really, nothing to do with ego but with wanting to get paid for what you are worth as a SFO...
Do you actually know any pilot who joined type rated with significant hours on type? Perhaps this is the first time they will take on experienced guys and the higher SFO pay will come into play from the start?
Being a 2 striper for 2 years when joining with no experience is acceptable just as other airlines require you to unfreeze your license to upgrade to 3 stripes. However, when joining with SFO experience it is being taken for a ride really, nothing to do with ego but with wanting to get paid for what you are worth as a SFO...
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I think at Jet2 to become a SFO is considered "a loyalty" payment after two years, due to the expansion over the past few years and lets hope the future, SFO have been getting commands fairly quickly after gaining the required experience.
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highflyer,
Yes, several, they have to wait for two years service before the SFO position is awarded. Incidentally, this was only introduced around 18 Months ago, the goal posts are moving again soon, so you will need 2 yrs service, un-frozen etc and an interview with the promotion panel!!!
If you come with type and hrs you will go onto full jet pay, but after 2 Months probabtion. This pay is the same as SFO salary (or very close!), you just don't get the vanity stripe!
Many of our guys have gone from 2 stripe to 4, so really there isn't an issue. Join, keep yer heed down, work hard and you never know, a command could come!!!!
Good Luck to all
Do you actually know any pilot who joined type rated with significant hours on type?
If you come with type and hrs you will go onto full jet pay, but after 2 Months probabtion. This pay is the same as SFO salary (or very close!), you just don't get the vanity stripe!
Many of our guys have gone from 2 stripe to 4, so really there isn't an issue. Join, keep yer heed down, work hard and you never know, a command could come!!!!
Good Luck to all