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Old 26th Dec 2009, 16:46
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So for the guys who have been told they are in a hold pool. Is that a pool prior to further stages or was it a yes you passed the interview and are now holding for a start date etc. How many got through?
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Old 26th Dec 2009, 16:47
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A lot of people who applied are ETOPS and 757/767 rated and haven't even been called for interview.

Sadly, they are not desperate. This is not a pilots market at the moment. Jet2 can be as picky, and choosy as they see fit.

Hopefully this situation will not last! Good luck to all who have sourced employment, and good luck to those still looking!
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 09:37
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What do those who have been offered a contract think of the offer? As far as I can see it is considerably worse than the initial 80% or even 70% permanent part-year contract that was mentioned at interview. Not only is it fixed term, but it is only 7 months of flying, so for an FO looking at £23-24k for the summer. Better than nothing though - good luck to those still waiting on a response from Jet2 or waiting in the holding pool.
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 10:22
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Penworth,

I’m not sure that it is any worse than what was discussed at the interview! Only down side is the reduction from 80% to 70% which is unfortunate, but driven by market forces! It was always only going to be 7 months of flying, regardless of permanent or fixed-term offers.

In many respects, the fixed-term contract is not devaluing the position as you will be paid the same rates as any permanent FO within Jet2.

The salary is still pro-rata and you should clear in the order £2700-£2900 p/m, by the time you take sector and duty pay into account, which if we’re honest is not a bad salary at all!

There are no hidden agendas or abnormal upfront costs that others seem to ask for. All in all, I personally feel it’s a good offer in the current climate.

Who knows – keep your nose clean and they may just offer a permanent position…

Best of luck to those waiting to hear and treading water!!
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 11:20
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A few yes's but any no's

Had interview in Nov, got told I would hear by the 14th, rang on 16th and 22nd still no news, just wondering if no news is bad news or have people been told their results positive or negative and I might still hear something good.

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Old 27th Dec 2009, 14:51
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I just meant that instead of £29k per year (for an FO) on a permanent deal, its been reduced to £24k on a fixed contract for the 7 months of flying. I agree though that it in the current market place it's not a bad deal.
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 15:06
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Yes any work is better than no work, but that is not a good deal by any standard. Get a job with a turbo prop operator, some are recruiting, even ones with what I thought was sub standard terms and conditions are better than that deal. You'll earn more than that and it'll be full time. Im a little disappointed because I actually thought when I move on from regional turboprops I'd improve my t and cs not sacrifice them. That said good luck to all those looking for work and have applications in process.
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 15:49
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£29k for 7 months work is equivilent to appx £42k basic (full time), plus of course there is sector pay and hourly allowances as well (adds to about £50k approx PA). as someone said not bad! Which turboprop operator pays circa 50k pa for first officers?
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 16:31
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Sorry I miss understood I thought that was 29 or 24 thousand per annum and 7 months pro rata. If your an sfo with a few thousan hours there are direct entry command opportunities in some turboprop companies earning more than that, which is an option to consider, get some command experience during the downturn.
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 18:10
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Yes, it might be equivalent to £50k, but the point is you're not getting it!

What you're getting is circa £29k for 7 months work - which is the same as a turbo-prop FO working full-time.

So unless you can find alternative employment for the remaining 5 months, you might as well be working full-time as a turbo-prop FO - was the point that was being made.

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Old 27th Dec 2009, 18:38
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Or one could take the view 'Why should I work for 12 months when I can get the same money for only working 7 months!'
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Old 27th Dec 2009, 18:51
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Very true about why work twelve when you can work seven, depends if you still enjoy flying? I don't feel like three days a week under six duty hours a day, and earliest report of six latest I'm home is half nine as hard work. I'm just suggesting an option for those who want to still fly regularly and have a reliable income. My rate per hour is pretty good in that sense. That's why a lot of us are hanging on to this career isn't it, the flying?
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Old 28th Dec 2009, 16:25
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If your an sfo with a few thousan hours there are direct entry command opportunities in some turboprop companies earning more than that, which is an option to consider, get some command experience during the downturn.
Errr, which TP operators would they be?

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Old 28th Dec 2009, 18:28
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Carpat Air (Romania), OLT (Germany), Darwin (Switzerland) and Eastern Airways (UK), all Saab 2000 operators and have all recruited recently, I expect Eastern to recruit again soon, always worth a c.v. Once again good luck to those looking for work. I would imagine familiar faces from Globespan to be already lined up for a position at Eastern.

Oh and I stand to be corrected but Ive just remembered I think Logan air were asking for applications in the last few weeks, at least there has been talk of interviews at work.
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 00:47
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Ta.

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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 10:59
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Had 'the call'
Good luck to anybody else waiting.
Happy new year.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 12:04
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Yea me to. They offered me FO, 757 ,LBA, 70 % permanent deal with perhaps the chance of 100 % after the Summer.

For me though, I couldn't accept it. I am lucky enough to already have a job ( which is full time / permanent ) ,so I could not justify risking no work in the winter. Also, I could not survive on such a salary decrease on the 70 % deal either.

It's a real shame, because from what I saw and talking to the people I met at the interview, it seemed a friendly Airline to work for. It would have got me home to West Yorkshire aswell. I still can't believe that I had to turn it down.

If I had known that the only contract on offer was 70 %, I wouldn't have bothered filling in the application form, only because I knew I couldn't take a cut in salary. Maybe they will start offering full time , permanent positions in the future, who knows.

I understand that there are many Pilots who have applied to Jet2 without jobs at the moment. I wish you all the best and hope all goes well for the future.

Take care.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 14:38
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Interesting that 75 guys are being offered permanent 70% work whereas I and some others I know on the 73 have been offered a fixed term contract for S10 only. Anyone been offered a contract that contradicts this trend?
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 16:23
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Anyone on the 75 fleet been told a definite no yet?
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 10:34
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The Website now has a link for Direct Entry Type Rated Captains for both 757 and 737 Fleets. Have they recruited the required number of F/O's and only require Captains now? How many have heard a yes or no for the 757 Fleet. Seems like a smaller number than the 737.
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