Do not get sick at Ryanair!

[babemagnet]

I am with Ryanair for 6 years plus and i am on a ryanair contract i have been sick for 3 months and i do not get back any money from the Irish goverment its a joke! I have been paying social welfare fees (prsi) for 6 years. They just do not reply on my request for money! thats what i am telling

[captplaystation]

I know you said you want to leave ASAP but I am not sure if making yourself so readily identifiable as you have is a wise proposition unless you already have your next job.
Be careful what you wish for, always better to leave at a time of your choosing, and preferably in a manner that leaves the door open and the bridges unburnt.
We never know what happens in the future, one day you could be happy to have any job, even this one.
Just my opinion, but your head is currently way above the parapet if you have given correct info.

[dc9-32]

Do Ryanair still put you on a one year probationary period

[Bleedair]

I feel for you. But I can't imagine RYR was your careergoal. It's tough times at the moment but I'm sure you could find something better!!

[FCS Explorer]

wouldn't "Don't get sick in ireland as expat" be a better thread title ?

[Aloue]

No FCS Explorer it would not. Answer your own questions by asking yourself if the issue is (1) being in Ireland, or (2) being an expat, or (3) working under arrangements put in place by Ryanair?

[babemagnet]

I started this thread just to point out that the social benefits in Ireland are very bad organised! It is just a warning for everyone to take care of your social benefits yourself because the Irish goverment does not care about you. it is not to bash Ryanair but the problem with Ryanair is that it is a Irish company. a lot off people do not know this until they get sick. Thats my point

[anotherthing]

PPrune is littered with threads from people saying how bad RYR is to work for.

Pilots are, usually, fairly intelligent, do you not check your Ts & Cs before you join?

I appreciate that for some people RYR is a stepping stone, often the only one they can get onto at the time, butthe fact is, the Ts & Cs are available to check before you sign the dotted line.

You either like it or lump it and accept it for what it is. A LoCo carrier is not going to give the same benefits as one of the biggies!!!

[sarah737]

Babemagnet,
When you would be working for a Belgian company you would have had only 1 month basic pay, no sectors nor any other extras. After the first month you would have been on social benefit at 40€ nett a day.
You still think FR/ Ireland is that bad??
You should blame yourself for not having a private loss of income insurance.

[eagerbeaver1]

BALPA - Home

All Ryanair pilots should read what is on the homepage, I was suprised to say the least.

[latetonite]

Babemagnet, maybe the babes will be less attracted now after discovering your social status and welfare

[Leo Hairy-Camel]

Belgians.

Dear, oh dear. What IS it about the flatlanders? When they're not measuring dick size by flipping off flight directors and automatics, they're running of 10,000ft runways by performing unnecessary backtracks!

And now, the effrontery of questioning three months off sick? Shouldn't you be tending to your dungeons?

And to end on a low note...

To achieve recognition it may be necessary to show the Central Arbitration Committee (CAC) that a majority of pilots support the application.

Well, good luck with that, Ian. Ryanair pilots have repeatedly demonstrated that you're not wanted here. Ten out of ten for persistence, though.

[inveritas]

Mugabellew's monitoring of absence is quite obsessive - you get called personally - within hours of your absence - if you have not "complied with Ryanair procedures" - then you get a selection of standard letters.

If you hit some target on his spreadsheet you get summoned to meet him in STN. All very polite, follow up letters, follow up calls, follow up meetings - until - well you find another job and - Foxtrot Oscar out the door.

I smell a constructive dismissal campaign coming to a court room near you soon.

Mugabellew - F.O. back to your family in Ireland - and leave us in peace.

[captplaystation]

In all fairness this was done by that nice Mr Brady and that dumbass Rose, along with numerous others from DUB (depending on what base you were in.)
I know it sound a bit like WW2 deathcamps, but they are "only obeying orders " & if they don't, they won't have a job.
If they tell you to put the gear down at 5 miles what do you do ? leave it till 3 ? nope you drop it at 5, as you want to keep your job.
Difficult to accept I know, but they are doing the same, so try not to take it too personally You will just get old prematurely, don't believe me ? look around you.

[daveyb]

started this thread just to point out that the social benefits in Ireland are very bad organised! It is just a warning for everyone to take care of your social benefits yourself because the Irish goverment does not care about you.

babe magnet,

You said that you work for FR directly for the last six years? who told you that your not entitled to any sick pay?

my friend has being out of work since last november 08 he gets paid $ from the social welfare about 450 euro per week thats for him&missis+kids plus he also gets helped out with the mortgage repayments.

to say that irish benefits are crap you must be living on a different Ireland to me why do you think that our country is full of bogus asylum seekers?

[whatdoesthisbuttondo]

Everyone knows the score with Ryanair before joining.

Please have the courtesy NOT to support an airline that is dragging all the better airline's conditions down AND THEN have the cheek to come on here whinging about how shoddy they are as an employer.

When you pay peanuts. . .

[blackred1443]

i can understand your grievances with ryr but critising an entire nation probably wont help....i take it aviation isnt booming in belgium then or you could work there!!sabina not hiring then??

[el caballero rojo]

i take it aviation isn't booming in Belgium then or you could work there!!sabina not hiring then??

Why are you all reacting so p***** off? The only people finding it funny making a statement like that are the ones who have not been out of a job as those former Sabena pilots. As far as I know, RYR has a crew base in Belgium, so why should not a belgian be flying for RYR? Even if we talk about Europe, it does not mean that in every European country you will be threated the same way by its health care and social system. Being offended because just one person criticizes it, is in my opinion just as cheap as RYR its lowest priced ticket.
We are all pilots. Why do not act like one?

[kenhughes]

If I understand the OP correctly, he lives in Belgium, works for an Irish Airline and is, presumably, paid in Euros. So far so good.

Because his pay originates in Ireland, it's subject to the social welfare deduction. (What I used to pay as National Insurance Contributions when I lived in Blighty). Again, so far, so good.

But, he gets sick and, because he doesn't live in Ireland, he can't claim pay-outs from the social welfare fund, which he's paid into for six years. It's even possible that, because he hasn't contributed to the Belgian equivalent (if there is one), for six years, he can't claim (full) benefits from the Belgian fund.

Does no one else see an element of unfairness here?

I don't think RYR can take the blame here, but the Irish Government could be possibly accused of greed - and of demanding money under false pretences?

[blackred1443]

while i see his point to an extent but its hardly something he wasnt aware of when joining ryr.lets face it most pilots are aware ryr is probably not the best deal available.
as for my spainins friend,you seemed to have missed the point entirely,i was merely saying dont vent your frustrations on an entire nation just because your not happy with ryr.is belgium perfect?