kk pilot

clearly, a Gulfstream V/550 rating is preferable to any Boeing - young pilots, pay attention.
Captain - 777/767/757/M80 - $'s (avg) 12-14k/mo
regretfully,no experience - Gulfstream......

LSGG

8 years experience total.
1 year F/O on light jet in 2nd biggest european corporate company
Roster ??? what-s that? On paper only but at the end of the month more or less 17 days ON, 13 days OFF.
When ON available 24h with 2 hours notice.
Pay after Tax with today's exchange rate £ 3300
13th Salary
Allowances £65 a day
LOL paid by EMPLOYEE on voluntary basis
24 days annual leave
Pension employer 1/2 employee 1/2 but legal minimums
No other benefits but stable job (today this is worth gold !)

Fly4Fun

Widebody Captain, Long Haul operation, European Carrier
€5,300 net per month, excludes per diems.
No medical, no pension, no profit share.

OPEN DES

SFO easyJet (Spanish contract)

5400 euro after tax
plus some bonus twice a year

5-4-5-3
36 holidays
LOL

david.craig

Obviously this will be very general and not taking into consideration experience/types etc
But as it stands early 2009, which carrier in the UK have the best package (salary, per diem, benefits etc) for First Officer and Command positions?
Just thought it would be interesting to hear what everyone's opinion was as to the best carrier to be with at the moment.

hunterboy

I should imagine that job security is more important than the pay and pension package at the moment. No point earning 10k a month if you could be out of a job next month.

zerotohero

Lowcost 738 F/O no prizes for guessing

Nov £4400
Dec £0
Jan £800
Feb £2800
Mar £4800
April looking like £2400

all before I deduct tax and NI and take into account expences

no benifits apart from staff travel on large network and as much hot water as I like.

david.craig

True, but with a few exceptions, would I be correct in assuming that the best performing carriers(financially) offer the best packages?

oopspff7

Lab Rat at major UK paper mill
4 on 6 off
10 day spring holiday
18 day summer holiday
10 day autumn holiday
4 service days
In work for 4 months out of 12
6 months full sick pay
6 months half sick pay
Bupa
Final salary pension
Yearly bonus
Take home £2700/month.

Boeingbuddy

777F Captain based in Germany
ca. 9000 Euros net.
At the moment 1 Flight a month.

Mickey Kaye

Speciality Registrar Ophthalmology

346 hours per month

28 days holiday per year. (Including bank holidays)

Most hours ever worked in a single week (as a doctor) - 144

Longest shift ever done (without sleep) - 82

Take home pay £2300.

Will get 20 years 2/3 final salary pension and 15 years average salary pension



Part Time Flying Instructor

Most hours ever flown in a month - 12 hours.

Amount of money earned - bugger all. Barely covers the costs of my medical, travel expensese etc. Doubt i'll ever recuperate my training costs.

Chilli78

Mickey

Complete the speciaility then immigrate to Australia.

You will add another zero to the end of your paycheck (in real money GBP) and soon have the brass to purchase or hire if you wish nice bonanzas, barons , cirruses etc.

How do they get away with paying you guys so little?

impartial

What I hope is a secure job - priceless

Capt Sullenbergers words about the low pay driving out experience and newcomers to the industry are ringing true in my ears, but judging by some of the paypackets mentioned its not true in all cases!

lexxity

Groundstaff for a UK carrier at MAN.
Brilliant roster, Weds, Thurs and every 3rd Friday on 18.75hrs a week.
Pay £550 a month (includes shift pay, which varies dependant on when you start/finish and days worked, i.e. more on an early weekend start), but I do it because I like it and my collegues are on the whole fab and having a little one it's working really well.
Free uniform. Free parking.
Staff travel, after 1 year, 1 free subload. after 4 years 1 free subload, 1 free firm and they accrue as you stay on. I'm coming upto 7 years. Upto six nominees. I get leave on an hours figure which comes upto about 6 weeks or so a year (same for full time).
Unlimited ZED on a huge number of other carriers.

I know it's not a flying job, but I thought it might be of interest to others out there looking at what is available.

Mungo Man

What I nightmare - I'd rather have my ~£2,400 in the bank at the end of every month, guaranteed, plus the occasional extra few hundred for selling days off/trips. Year 2 regional jet FO. 700 hrs pa. Take home is after pension payment to which company adds double what I pay.

Ezy.Pilot

easyJet line captain on a Italian contract.

Net take home still varies because it was introduced last June and still not fully settled due to conservative tax calculations on EZY's behalf. Estimated was about €8500 but for me actual has been north of €9000,- ever since, sometimes hitting the 5 figures.

-TFR (severance indemnity pay) 6.8% on top of gross.

-Fondo Vole ( Italian Pilot state pension) supposedly 23,8% on top of gross but no one really seems to know and is probably too good to be true. Still looking for the info in English though. I'm told that If you had put in 20 years you would get €5000,- net p/m today but which I seriously question.

- Loyalty bonus once a year, 5/10/15% depending on time with company, was fully taxed but apparently half taxed since 1 feb 09.

- Medical

- Loss Of License, 1.3 times Basic (so ± €139,000,-)

- Not quite sure but I think Uniform since 1 feb 09.

- Death in Service, 4 times basic.

- Sick pay: full basic for 3 months, further 3 if medical temporary suspended.

- Staff travel if available, bit of a problem of late.

- 5/4 5/3 roster, 25 bookable days off, should be 30 according to Italian law, is being worked on.

- Probably forgot something

My big thank you goes out to the BALPA/ANPAC/ePG negotiation team which did a fantastic job negotiating the Italian contract while the pound was at €1,50

O yeah, I'm the first in line to go on a 75% contract for 85% of the money and because Italy is Italy will cost me about 10% net.

Again, Thank you BALPA/ANPC/ePG.

It seems that half of EZY is trying to get on a € contract these days, with the pound not doing very well at the moment, particularly a French contract for which I don't have the info.

super ted123

1st year captain turbo prop

Take home about £2400 + around £100-300 a month flight pay.

Looking at some of the earnings on here makes me want to cry!

Huge debt just being serviced, very little head way.

Would do anything for a Gulfstream job, except work for free

I cant wait for the upturn

Regards,

ST

zip29

The previous thread on this subject was started in a ( short) golden period for pilots, and I found it very interesting and informative.

Now that so many of us are out of work, and even more feeling vulnerable, I find the new thread to be in bad taste. I acknowledge that some posters felt the same about the previous thread.

matkat

Engineering dept. of a middle eastern airline (small and not well known) take home 2200 Euro per week, all food laundry etc paid for at hotel transport to from work unfortunately the bad part is 12 weeks on 3 off. Business class RTN to airport of choice (GLA for me) taxi from airport to home and back (70 Miles each way) not a bad number really apart from the long time away from home, but its retirement job for me and no complaints.

suchiman

Hey guys. This is for pilots that are employed by a company that has its main operations center in one country and their reside in a different country.
For example Easy Jet pilots that work for easy UK but live in France or Italy.
Does Easy Jet deduct taxes from your salary in the UK or do you pay all your taxes in your country of residence?

Thanks.