Jet4You Roaster in Casablanca
Joined: Jul 2001
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From: Europe
Roster J4U
The roster is terrible. Youll be stuck in Casa all time except the two time 4 days off pr month.
All other days where you are not flying, you are on Blanc days. Meaning standby from 0600 until 2100. Ewen when you need rest acording to the rules.
Frederic Smet is trying to change it to 6 days on, 2 days off, 7 days on 2 days off.
The most hated man in Marocco.
All other days where you are not flying, you are on Blanc days. Meaning standby from 0600 until 2100. Ewen when you need rest acording to the rules.
Frederic Smet is trying to change it to 6 days on, 2 days off, 7 days on 2 days off.
The most hated man in Marocco.
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Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 10
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From: Europe
Plane sailing,
why dont you tell people that they need to check out of the hotel when they are not working?
So they stand on the road or has to pay for the hotel? As the DFO want?
Or why don't you tell them that they need to sign a paper accepting to obey OMa even though it is not according to the FTL. And not "Flight Tolerance Levels" as written in your contract. FTL means Flight time limitations.
why dont you tell people that they need to check out of the hotel when they are not working?
So they stand on the road or has to pay for the hotel? As the DFO want?
Or why don't you tell them that they need to sign a paper accepting to obey OMa even though it is not according to the FTL. And not "Flight Tolerance Levels" as written in your contract. FTL means Flight time limitations.
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 56
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From: South America
Oh dear flyver sour sour grapes eh??? much as we all like to stay anonymous I understand that you have just been fired anyway. you see most of us are happy here and have been here a long time before you started moaning and groaning... you know what they say what goes around comes around. bye bye
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: In a far better place
Flight directors on for TKOF please
and have the aircraft stable at 500'
and have the aircraft stable at 500'
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Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 66
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From: UK
captjns
Flight Directors off..... Hand fly all the way...... keep the speed up...... see how long you can keep it clean..... Speedbrake is for chickens.......etc etc
Frequently =
Level busts..........CRM nightmare...........Traffic Traffic.........drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........'Speed,Spe ed'........terrain!terrain!........ WHOOP!WHOOP! PULL UP!.........etc etc
Flight Directors off..... Hand fly all the way...... keep the speed up...... see how long you can keep it clean..... Speedbrake is for chickens.......etc etc
Frequently =
Level busts..........CRM nightmare...........Traffic Traffic.........drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........'Speed,Spe ed'........terrain!terrain!........ WHOOP!WHOOP! PULL UP!.........etc etc
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 17
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From: somwhere Hot
Can anyone tell me how JET4YOU get away with having pilots being on 24 hours standby.
This is exactly what you are on if you are on a blanc/ Open roster.
I have never heard of this in any other airline.
Do the Morrocan authorities really approve this or are they having the wool pulled over them.
This is exactly what you are on if you are on a blanc/ Open roster.
I have never heard of this in any other airline.
Do the Morrocan authorities really approve this or are they having the wool pulled over them.
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The so called "blanc day" is a relict from the old FTL. The new FTL, in place since almost a year now, allows, however, exactly the same procedure if hotac standby is scheduled. The definition for hotac standby can be used also as home standby.
Only in the case of airport standby is a time frame for standby required.
Is there any airline in Morocco which is not using the "blanc day" procedure?
This problem of interpreting the FTL is not only a Jet4you problem, it is certainly a DAC induced situation as the intro of the new FTL in November last year has not been done in a proper way. There is no explanation nor guideline published. And since the union is busy with the nationalization issue, the airlines introduce more and more unwritten rules on how to read and understand the FTL.
21 hrs duty, are scheduled, 29 hrs duty are not rare, resetting the 7-day limits to 0 hrs after the 36 hr rest period, 1 hr check-in timings also, certainly for most airlines with base Casablanca, 1.5 or 2 hrs are more realistic etc.....
And in the case of Jet4you, don't forget that politics, schedules and other important issues are solely set and determined in Zaventem.
Only in the case of airport standby is a time frame for standby required.
Is there any airline in Morocco which is not using the "blanc day" procedure?
This problem of interpreting the FTL is not only a Jet4you problem, it is certainly a DAC induced situation as the intro of the new FTL in November last year has not been done in a proper way. There is no explanation nor guideline published. And since the union is busy with the nationalization issue, the airlines introduce more and more unwritten rules on how to read and understand the FTL.
21 hrs duty, are scheduled, 29 hrs duty are not rare, resetting the 7-day limits to 0 hrs after the 36 hr rest period, 1 hr check-in timings also, certainly for most airlines with base Casablanca, 1.5 or 2 hrs are more realistic etc.....
And in the case of Jet4you, don't forget that politics, schedules and other important issues are solely set and determined in Zaventem.