First Officer for Sale on Ebay (for free!!)
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So it would appear that I was right in my assumptions. The guy was being rightfully sarcastic.
See my post on page 1.
Shame in all the haste to post 'twaddle' it rather went unnoticed. These schemes are the enemy not the desperate low hour pilots they attract.
Rant over - I'm off to LTN
See my post on page 1.
Shame in all the haste to post 'twaddle' it rather went unnoticed. These schemes are the enemy not the desperate low hour pilots they attract.
Rant over - I'm off to LTN
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And there's no point in having a go at Mick either. Are you saying that if he offered you a job tomorrow, you would say 'no?'
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Your opinion reminds me of the Monty Python sketch about the witch hunt......... '.........burn them !!!!!!'.
Maybe not complete ignorance in your case but really it is and always has been pilots that have allowed things to get where they are.
I just wonder though do you think many people like me are on some sort of prison sentence at Ryanair? I and many others feel that it's actually a pretty good option compared to most other airlines so cut us some slack and look elsewhere for a scapegoat! Do you think your airline managers are any different to O' Leary? He's just better at the game than they are!
Your opinion reminds me of the Monty Python sketch about the witch hunt......... '.........burn them !!!!!!'.
Maybe not complete ignorance in your case but really it is and always has been pilots that have allowed things to get where they are.
I just wonder though do you think many people like me are on some sort of prison sentence at Ryanair? I and many others feel that it's actually a pretty good option compared to most other airlines so cut us some slack and look elsewhere for a scapegoat! Do you think your airline managers are any different to O' Leary? He's just better at the game than they are!
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so don't assume that everyone would bend over and take it up the proverbial to work for O'Leary.
I would NOT work for O'Leary under any circumstances you could name, EVER! I wouldn't even fly as a passenger on his shabby little airline, so don't assume that everyone would bend over and take it up the proverbial to work for O'Leary.
Anyway, this is thread drift. We'll leave the Ryanair bashing for another day.
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Greetings from LTN.
Yes, as CK says FR bashing is irrelevant.
If some guys and girls can get flying on any type, keep current, get paid and have a future that is great.
What would these 'morally superior' people propose? Use your licence as a 'beer mat' to impress the girls?
Gotta head east now, hope everyone has a good week.
Yes, as CK says FR bashing is irrelevant.
If some guys and girls can get flying on any type, keep current, get paid and have a future that is great.
What would these 'morally superior' people propose? Use your licence as a 'beer mat' to impress the girls?
Gotta head east now, hope everyone has a good week.
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Q: What is the difference between paying to fly and advertising that you fly for free?
A: Approx. £30K from what I can see.
I think people should lay off this guy a bit, he just wants to use the ATPL that he's paid so much for. At least he isn't giving anyone any money to be a first officer!
Before slating this guy, ask yourself what you would do in his shoes. Big debt (possibly), a minimal number of jobs available, less on the horizon, not attracting any interest from employers due to low hours which are not increasing and currency slipping. I'd start looking for a paddle of any shape to get me out of the creek!
A: Approx. £30K from what I can see.
I think people should lay off this guy a bit, he just wants to use the ATPL that he's paid so much for. At least he isn't giving anyone any money to be a first officer!
Before slating this guy, ask yourself what you would do in his shoes. Big debt (possibly), a minimal number of jobs available, less on the horizon, not attracting any interest from employers due to low hours which are not increasing and currency slipping. I'd start looking for a paddle of any shape to get me out of the creek!
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Do you realise how pathetic you all sound,
The lad just wants a job and was being proactive and moderatly homourous in the process. It has already been pointed out the guys and girls from CTC who work for FREE for 6 months are not getting the deplorable abuse that is being dished out here. Why not turn your attention to them? I'll even start the thread if you want. He has a rating and wants a job, but oh wait, the self righteous of PPrune have spoken and thats not allowed. And your saying this lads a tosser, errrrrr no he isn't.
Quick question, why is advertising your services (even if it is for free) "moreover illegal" Birdy 767?
The lad just wants a job and was being proactive and moderatly homourous in the process. It has already been pointed out the guys and girls from CTC who work for FREE for 6 months are not getting the deplorable abuse that is being dished out here. Why not turn your attention to them? I'll even start the thread if you want. He has a rating and wants a job, but oh wait, the self righteous of PPrune have spoken and thats not allowed. And your saying this lads a tosser, errrrrr no he isn't.
Quick question, why is advertising your services (even if it is for free) "moreover illegal" Birdy 767?
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No aeroncaman, i'm sorry but you are you seriously proposing that may actually happen? An airline would get rid of rated guys who they pay and replace them with pilots who will work for free. That is a CRAP CRAP CRAP arguement, i'm not even going to waste my time typing why. If you can't sit back and think why that may be a problem you are not very bright.
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The lad just wants a job and was being proactive
Why not get yourself knocking on the front door of everybody in this country who owns an aeroplane? Swallow your pride and accept that a jet job and maybe even a turbo prop job aint gonna happen for no timers, not in the near future anyway.
If I was in his position I'd be happy to be flying and getting paid for it, even if it's only 5 quid an hour doing aerial photography.
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I think the responses on here have been laughable.
People need to relax
If I were in his shoes with an expensive rating and no hours I would have to consider doing what I could to build a few hours and get some experience. Its a bit drastic, and you have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, perhaps it was a joke. I dont imagine your average airline recruitment office searchign ebay for staff!!!!
gl2651, despite the over the top and abusive replies I wish you all the best for getting your first airline job.
One little bit of advice though, feel free to disregard, why not try and build those precious hours with your FI rating, work anywhere, move, go abroad or get a job in another indusrty while you instruct to help pay the bills.
Pprune is a harsh world these days!
People need to relax
If I were in his shoes with an expensive rating and no hours I would have to consider doing what I could to build a few hours and get some experience. Its a bit drastic, and you have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, perhaps it was a joke. I dont imagine your average airline recruitment office searchign ebay for staff!!!!
gl2651, despite the over the top and abusive replies I wish you all the best for getting your first airline job.
One little bit of advice though, feel free to disregard, why not try and build those precious hours with your FI rating, work anywhere, move, go abroad or get a job in another indusrty while you instruct to help pay the bills.
Pprune is a harsh world these days!
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Well he must have covered every other base if he is advertising on Ebay, so yes i would consider him a proactive individual. I really cannot see him pinning all his hopes on Ebay and forgetting all the other ways of getting a job.
Well he must have covered every other base if he is advertising on Ebay, so yes i would consider him a proactive individual. I really cannot see him pinning all his hopes on Ebay and forgetting all the other ways of getting a job.
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Aeroncaman,
What you suggested would be unsustainable for an airline, where would the captains come from? Are you suggesting that they would all work for free too once they had upgraded. Thats why i responded as i did because i think your suggestion is far fetched. Pilots work for free for a short time period, say six months, not for ever!
I'm telling you now if the scenario you suggest had the remotest chance of working, Ryanair would have been running courses all last week and two on sunday.
What you suggested would be unsustainable for an airline, where would the captains come from? Are you suggesting that they would all work for free too once they had upgraded. Thats why i responded as i did because i think your suggestion is far fetched. Pilots work for free for a short time period, say six months, not for ever!
I'm telling you now if the scenario you suggest had the remotest chance of working, Ryanair would have been running courses all last week and two on sunday.
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FR salaries are pretty damn good: as are the maintenance and the new shiny jets. Just because some seats are sold very cheaply doesn't mean we work for peanuts.
and good luck to the fella: if I was in recruitment I would give him an interview. He has big cojones.
FR salaries are pretty damn good: as are the maintenance and the new shiny jets. Just because some seats are sold very cheaply doesn't mean we work for peanuts.
and good luck to the fella: if I was in recruitment I would give him an interview. He has big cojones.
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Money-Timeoff-Half decent Roster Aeroncaman, thats all i want. Looking at Jet2 for example (who i beleive are at the lower end of the pay scale for 737 drivers according to PPJN) they give all those, as do Ryanair. As i said and I think everyone would agree that if MOL could get away without paying pilots he would, even he knows he can only go so far!