Turkish Airlines Seeking Captains.
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From: FUBAR
Sigma now say on their latest plea for candidates 
(on flightglobal .com) that the positions for F/O on B737/A320 are ·" commuting", but don't claim that those for Capts for these types would be, only the long-haul types, as previously promised, are shown as 3wks on/1 wk off.
Are they assuming that all us LH seat bods are bitter divorced old (youngish?
) men that don't want to go home ? 
(on flightglobal .com) that the positions for F/O on B737/A320 are ·" commuting", but don't claim that those for Capts for these types would be, only the long-haul types, as previously promised, are shown as 3wks on/1 wk off.Are they assuming that all us LH seat bods are bitter divorced old (youngish?
) men that don't want to go home ?
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From: Under the bridge
First officer
Anyone got any information on what to study or prepare for the Thy assessment?
This is the schedule..im going next month.
Happy to hear from somebody who already went
This is the schedule..im going next month.
Day One
Travel to Istanbul and stay in hotel overnight
Day Two
You will be required to attend the THY HQ building. In the morning all your documents will be checked and all
necessary paperwork completed. You will then undertake either a verbal or written technical examination.
In the afternoon part of the group of candidates will attend a SIM assessment.
necessary paperwork completed. You will then undertake either a verbal or written technical examination.
In the afternoon part of the group of candidates will attend a SIM assessment.
Day Three
The remaining group will undertake the SIM test.
Day Four
A one to one interview will be conducted. The THY panel will consist of both Flight Operations Management
personnel and HR Management personnel.
You will also be required to undertake a Psychometric and Psychomotor test as part of the assessment.
personnel and HR Management personnel.
You will also be required to undertake a Psychometric and Psychomotor test as part of the assessment.
Day Five
Hotel / Flight home- successful candidates may be required to extend their stay in Istanbul to attend the local
police station to complete the residency permit.Happy to hear from somebody who already went
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From: FUBAR
It has possibly changed since beginning of 2009 but at that stage the important point were. . . learn how to politely enjoy a nice tea around the table whilst having a friendly chat with 6 men, only one of whom had a reasonable grasp of English.
If you are going for 737/A320 don't use the C - word (commuting
)
Forget all that crummy crm/methodic completion of checklists stuff that stood you in good stead in all those sim checks you have done thus far. . instead just operate single crew whilst completing both recall and non-recall items by recall, horse the aircraft around the sky in a cowboy approach and throw it on the ground without involving your colleague in any way. They gave me the impression this was what they liked, they may have used the intervening 18mths to become a bit more MCC/Boeing, but then again maybe not. Great laugh
If you are going for 737/A320 don't use the C - word (commuting
)Forget all that crummy crm/methodic completion of checklists stuff that stood you in good stead in all those sim checks you have done thus far. . instead just operate single crew whilst completing both recall and non-recall items by recall, horse the aircraft around the sky in a cowboy approach and throw it on the ground without involving your colleague in any way. They gave me the impression this was what they liked, they may have used the intervening 18mths to become a bit more MCC/Boeing, but then again maybe not. Great laugh
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From: HERE AND THERE
THY
From a call to their HR today: NO MORE recruiting for B777 this year. Maybe t 2011.
So, don't bother to fill out all that paperwork through the agencies. It's gonna be a waste of time.
And yes: with the current 'commuting' police they assume all long haul bods are either single or hate be at home
3 weeks ON one week OFF, travelling on YOUR days OFF means less than 6 days back home a month...
So, don't bother to fill out all that paperwork through the agencies. It's gonna be a waste of time.
And yes: with the current 'commuting' police they assume all long haul bods are either single or hate be at home
3 weeks ON one week OFF, travelling on YOUR days OFF means less than 6 days back home a month...
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From: around.....
Day one, you arrive at the hotel. 4* hotel.
Day two....they pick you from the hotel around 9am, and there is where the "action" starts...You wait in a room with other candidates, for a couple of hours, till they call you, to check your license, your medical, and other documents. Then you wait for many hours, till you enter the simulator.
There is NO A340 sim. Therefore, they ask you to be tested in the 320.
This is a real thriller!! You start with basic
steep turns!!!! Left-right, climb, descend.
Then, they "slew" the machine to an airport, basically LTAC or LTBA, and with CAT 1 weather, and some 25 kts xwind, they ask you to fly a raw-data ILS.
In the meanwhile, a nasty co-pilot (nasty is his job, the guy is OK), makes your life extremely difficult. (you know, he brings the aflor easily....he does not obey your orders...he flies like my grandmom...).
And all this, to captains with more than 15k hours....
It is a good experience....Next day, if you pass this thrill, you are asked to pass an interview. Nice people, friendly.
Then you must go to a police station to sign paper work, till the afternoon, for your stay there.
The next day, you fly home......and you wait, till they contact you again.
Day two....they pick you from the hotel around 9am, and there is where the "action" starts...You wait in a room with other candidates, for a couple of hours, till they call you, to check your license, your medical, and other documents. Then you wait for many hours, till you enter the simulator.
There is NO A340 sim. Therefore, they ask you to be tested in the 320.
This is a real thriller!! You start with basic
steep turns!!!! Left-right, climb, descend.Then, they "slew" the machine to an airport, basically LTAC or LTBA, and with CAT 1 weather, and some 25 kts xwind, they ask you to fly a raw-data ILS.
In the meanwhile, a nasty co-pilot (nasty is his job, the guy is OK), makes your life extremely difficult. (you know, he brings the aflor easily....he does not obey your orders...he flies like my grandmom...).
And all this, to captains with more than 15k hours....
It is a good experience....Next day, if you pass this thrill, you are asked to pass an interview. Nice people, friendly.
Then you must go to a police station to sign paper work, till the afternoon, for your stay there.
The next day, you fly home......and you wait, till they contact you again.
pilot415
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From: on earth
I have heard from colleagues who are passed the thriller that during the training THY will not pay them. No body knows how long will be lasted this training. (Who guaranties that will start?)
I don't think that will be less than 20 - 30 days.
I don't think that will be less than 20 - 30 days.
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: around.....
It is really a thriller going over ......
Commanders with 6 or more k of hours on type, are failing their sim....
For 777, they are using 737, and for 340, they are using 320 sims.
Nice place to live Istanbul, nice people, nice food, nice night life.
Excellent staff in the Company, and very helpful.
But the assessment sucks!
It seems, that in the reality, they don't want foreigners, in their cockpits.
Otherwise I cannot explain the 80% of failures.....
Commanders with 6 or more k of hours on type, are failing their sim....
For 777, they are using 737, and for 340, they are using 320 sims.
Nice place to live Istanbul, nice people, nice food, nice night life.
Excellent staff in the Company, and very helpful.
But the assessment sucks!
It seems, that in the reality, they don't want foreigners, in their cockpits.
Otherwise I cannot explain the 80% of failures.....
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Here, there and everywhere.
Turkish FO contract
Hi guys and gals,
I got a call from Sigmar today. Non-commuting 3-year contract for FO´s (renewed every 12 months due to local labour laws). 8000 turkish liras basic salary minus local taxes (around 5%) including 70 hours block, 95 liras/hour for overtime, quarterly bonus of 3500 liras, at least 8 off days (2 day blocks), 18 days annual leave, possible upgrade according to company´s need,
ID-90´s + ZED´s, first 15 days at hotel payed by company, local transportation by company, no housing allowances. That´s the contract in a nutshell. I would appreciate if anyone actually flying for them could post details on A320 and B737 rosters, layovers and cost of living in Istambul.
Thanx and safe flights for all!
I got a call from Sigmar today. Non-commuting 3-year contract for FO´s (renewed every 12 months due to local labour laws). 8000 turkish liras basic salary minus local taxes (around 5%) including 70 hours block, 95 liras/hour for overtime, quarterly bonus of 3500 liras, at least 8 off days (2 day blocks), 18 days annual leave, possible upgrade according to company´s need,
ID-90´s + ZED´s, first 15 days at hotel payed by company, local transportation by company, no housing allowances. That´s the contract in a nutshell. I would appreciate if anyone actually flying for them could post details on A320 and B737 rosters, layovers and cost of living in Istambul.
Thanx and safe flights for all!
Last edited by upspeed; 3rd July 2010 at 03:43.
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From: a shack on a hill
Way to go!
Begin of ops 1933, 22nd hull loss in 2009: That's one loss in 3.5 years. Wow, this is one reliable carrier. A good way to make your family rich (if you have got appropriate life cover). Even Merpati Nusantara did better than that.
Wow, this is one reliable carrier. A good way to make your family rich (if you have got appropriate life cover). Even Merpati Nusantara did better than that.
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: 51N
"Wow, this is one reliable carrier."
Wow, I wonder how in heaven it's possible that same "unreliable" carrier was invited to Star Alliance group by distinguished companies like Member Airlines - Star Alliance
What have they think?
Wow, I wonder how in heaven it's possible that same "unreliable" carrier was invited to Star Alliance group by distinguished companies like Member Airlines - Star Alliance
What have they think?
