Aer Lingus - LGW

[doctorfox]

or an xmas catalogue distributor?

[crappy5]

How much will a years sector pay be roughly?

[Lummy]

£8500ish.

Taxed at full rate.

And the joke continues.

[Norman Stanley Fletcher]

fade to grey - Just to clarify my own position, I am an easyJet Airbus Training Captain who is simply keen for easyJet to do as well as it can in the current climate. I have nothing whatsoever to do with CTC and never have done - nor am I likely to be seeking employment with them any time soon! I have no axe to grind other than one of absolute frustration at short term thinking by people who are paid obscence sums of money to do a whole lot better. I have, however, personally trained a number of our CTC cadets and they are almost invariably top quality people. They are inexperienced, but nonetheless are type-rated and have a little less than 500 hours on type. You therefore cannot speak in the same breath as them and people with 200 hours out of Oxford. They are therefore exactly who EI want as many of their early teething problems have been ironed out at easyJet in a robust training environment whilst operating all around Europe. As I said earlier, it really does not get much better than that in terms of suitability to go to EI. I wish them all well, but I cannot say I hope that EI do too well out of Gatwick!

[Dr Eckener]

Well I lost my job, and I'd happily take it. Pays more than McDonalds

[jonjoe]

Lummy, if you don't like it you know where the door is........

[Green Army]

Aer Lingus T & C's

Pilots Pay and Condition- Information for candidates

Gatwick Base

Pay-scales

Point
First Officer
Captain

1
£41,200.00
£78,280.00
2
£42,436.00
£80,628.40
3
£43,672.00
£82,976.80
4
£44,908.00
£85,325.20
5
£46,144.00
£87,673.60
6
£47,380.00
£90,022.00
7
£48,616.00
£92,370.40
8
£49,852.00
£94,718.80
9
£51,088.00
£97,067.20
10
£52,324.00
£99,415.60

Sector Pay
•Sectors divided into bands based on nautical miles
•Same rate of payment for Captains and First Officers

•Average £8,500 per annum

General Terms

•

Annual Leave

o 28 days (including Public Holidays)

o Increase by 1 day after each of the first 5 years service to max of 33 days

• Paid Sick Leave entitlement increases with service to 13 Weeks after 2 years

• Medical, Life & Loss of Licence Insurance Provided.

• Uniform Provided.

• Working Time Limits as per JAR-Ops

Very important!

EI pilots stand together in IALPA unlike some other airlines (you know who you are) These condition might seem poor but we as a group werk together to improve them to the level we have in Dublin. We need to keep this unity throughout the company otherwise we end up with people that only care about themselfs and dont care about your fellow pilots, like the -heads in Ryan air. IALPA is the strenght in EI and we need to keep this up, with IALPA we will increase the T/C's. And we are! We have a Global Seniority list that means you can apply for DUB base and the DUB conditions after three years, based on availability and seniority!!!!

Pilots that dont stand together and are willing to be shafted and dont do anything about it are in my mind useless to this industry and should walk away from aviation. I understand that finishing training means in most cases you have debts and worries. This might be the reason why some of us work for companies like Ryan Air but it doesnt mean you have to accept the way some companies are treating some pilots. We should all stand together, all airlines all pilots. If everybody would to step up to the plate we might be able to turn the tables.

GOOD LUCK!

P.S If you are one of those -heads, please dont react. You are wasting our time. But if you are one of those pilots that are willing to improve our world then please let me know what you think.

[Lummy]

Jonjoe,

My apologies. It was a stab at the UK tax system. If I could find the door to that particular problem...

Apparently it is going to be UK wide.

[leeds 65]

im one of those heads and a very happy head too

[The Flying Cokeman]

I hope IALPA are better at keeping their pilots united, than they are at spelling

[captplaystation]

Welcome back Capt Kremin, or should I say J.P. Ballsareneedy,

Brisbane getting a bit passe ( sorry as it says on the left there , no longer in France, so the accent is N/A on my keyboard ) time to find some culture back in Europe eh ?

What aload of horlocks

[yoland]

First Officer starting salary is really a joke and after ten years still isnt funny. Im dissappointed with IALPA but i feel they are getting weaker by the day and just protecting themselves in Dublin.

[easymoney]

J.P.

Nice way to refer to fellow pilots.

Looks like the the so call ****heads are on better conditions than what IALPA have negotiated. A bit of a case of "I'm alright Jack".

Don't forget the to take into account the 7% deduction, to pay back the recent bad investment.

Sure we'll be seeing you in East Midlands for your 6 monthly renewal soon anyhow.

[45989]

All a bit shallow

easymoney.... I'd be worried that you might not have EMA to go to in six months. Might say AF or LH over the door.

Its all starting to appear pear-shaped for the pikey

We know the reason for the rush(panic) to try and get AL
Wait for the next set of ryr figures..........

Like the movie, "There will be blood"

Lots of it!

[Count Bawbag]

Crikey, it's the CTC love in! Norman's brochure like blah makes them sound more like production cars.
Oh well, I suppose if they're rated and they're sitting about flicking their winkies doing not much then they should have the jobs.

[Deep and fast]

Rumour is that bmi are gonna go down the pay to line train route. It's like a infection.

It's all bs

I'm gonna give up soon cos this industry will be worth f all soon.

D and F

[yoland]

Lets focus on the topic if at all possible.

[flying macaco]

First Officer starting salary is really a joke

It's one of the best I've seen at the moment out of those recruiting (having looked around alot) and given the current market I think a lot of people would very happily take it. Lots of people (me included) have recently been made redundant. And you scoff at a starting salary of almost 50k/year (including duty pay). Now that really is a joke.

[clanger32]

FM....Amen to that. We'd all like to earn more than that, but £50k yr1? Where do I sign - although unfortunately I suspect there's slim to no chance I'll even be looked at...

[ItsAjob]

And that my friends is why our conditions are going down the pan.