Sky Europe no salaries ? true or false ?
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How are the two connected?
If SkyEurope doesn't give you copies of it then you can get them HERE
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Any "external" problem has an effect on our ability to concentrate 100% on the job, be it job insecurity marital problems or 1001 other things. . . it is, what is loosely termed. . . life. The secret is to recognise that something is on your mind, confide in your colleague if it is preying on your mind too much, or if it really is that much of a distraction, go sick. This takes some people ( I am one example) years to realise, but it is very important. Do NOT fly if you can't forget your ground-borne problems & concentrate on ( & enjoy
) your flying.
The guys who have taken positive action in helping the company are probably less at risk than the ones who are slouching around with slumped shoulders complaining all the while ( in my opinion anyway) as they are directing their negative feelings in a positive direction.
) your flying.The guys who have taken positive action in helping the company are probably less at risk than the ones who are slouching around with slumped shoulders complaining all the while ( in my opinion anyway) as they are directing their negative feelings in a positive direction.
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maybepilot,
Your supposedly old friend is not a training captain nor a TRI/TRE.(if he said that he lied to his supposedly friend,you that is) hence his salary of 8-9000 euro net/months.Yes he has seniority as he had a managerial position a few years ago.I know who he is and I am not to comment about his pilot abilities which is concerning himself and his examiners.
Most of the hungarians crews are based in Vienna and they are doing just fine,the vienna base captain is hungarian.A very nice man.So hard to call for any kind of tensions..racism?
Anyways, I wish you all nice and safe flights and a good session of PC sim session to maybepilot.
Now I am really done
Your supposedly old friend is not a training captain nor a TRI/TRE.(if he said that he lied to his supposedly friend,you that is) hence his salary of 8-9000 euro net/months.Yes he has seniority as he had a managerial position a few years ago.I know who he is and I am not to comment about his pilot abilities which is concerning himself and his examiners.
Most of the hungarians crews are based in Vienna and they are doing just fine,the vienna base captain is hungarian.A very nice man.So hard to call for any kind of tensions..racism?
Anyways, I wish you all nice and safe flights and a good session of PC sim session to maybepilot.
Now I am really done
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skypilot,
i am way too old to make up stories.
You, on the other hand, are obviously way too young and naive to be able to see the difference between an airline and a football team since your passion seems to be obscuring reality just like it does for football fans.
But being young and naive is part of life especially when you start a career in aviation so enjoy it while it lasts.
i am way too old to make up stories.
You, on the other hand, are obviously way too young and naive to be able to see the difference between an airline and a football team since your passion seems to be obscuring reality just like it does for football fans.
But being young and naive is part of life especially when you start a career in aviation so enjoy it while it lasts.
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Come on guys, is this not enough?
Masks are exposed, what is the meaning of continuing this thread under this deliberately planted
Masks are exposed, what is the meaning of continuing this thread under this deliberately planted
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SkyEurope no salaries? true or false?
SkyEurope no salaries? true or false?
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as skyeuropepilot would say
those of us with something to say have spoken, and I believe if you read what has happened while you were gone, generally understood each other ( well with one outstanding exception)
Please don't come back on here and stir up the sh1t.
Answer my previous question to you if you will, or if you have nothing useful to add go back to your Xmas dinner / sleep or whatever.
those of us with something to say have spoken, and I believe if you read what has happened while you were gone, generally understood each other ( well with one outstanding exception)
Please don't come back on here and stir up the sh1t.
Answer my previous question to you if you will, or if you have nothing useful to add go back to your Xmas dinner / sleep or whatever.
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skypilot,
I know very well what a TRI/TRE makes at Sky (remember that in the west we talk net and not gross) as I also know many other things but I don't want this discussion to become an issue between the 2 of us because nobody is actually interested.
Your nickname says it all on your neutral viewpoints....all part of the young and naive pilot's life at his first experience.
Again, enjoy it while it lasts!
Maybe the title wasn't 100% appropriate, fact is that salaries are being paid late which in my little experience is the first sign of something worse to come.
I know very well what a TRI/TRE makes at Sky (remember that in the west we talk net and not gross) as I also know many other things but I don't want this discussion to become an issue between the 2 of us because nobody is actually interested.
Your nickname says it all on your neutral viewpoints....all part of the young and naive pilot's life at his first experience.
Again, enjoy it while it lasts!
Maybe the title wasn't 100% appropriate, fact is that salaries are being paid late which in my little experience is the first sign of something worse to come.
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As it's Christmas & I care about your feelings I have changed the title on my first post. Unfortunately this doesn't change the title on the forum index, only the mods can do that.
If you take the trouble to read my initial post, you will find I said
" Personally I sincerely hope what is posted on ppjn is NOT true"
And that I think summerises it nicely.
If you take the trouble to read my initial post, you will find I said
" Personally I sincerely hope what is posted on ppjn is NOT true"
And that I think summerises it nicely.
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You will be interested to know that is 1300e a month more than a Capt on a full time non UK contract (with the fall in the pound probably the same now in UK) earns in the "low fares high salaries 
" airline.
Is that figure for full-time/contract or both ?
Are all non local Capt's contract ,or full time also offered.
See, I told you my interest was positive not negative.
Edited to say that is based on the (deleted) figure of 8300, so 7000 with Air O' Leary.
skyeuropepilot, are you worried your girlfriend/wife (or both
) reads this & you told her you "only" earn 6000 ? ? 
" airline.Is that figure for full-time/contract or both ?
Are all non local Capt's contract ,or full time also offered.
See, I told you my interest was positive not negative.
Edited to say that is based on the (deleted) figure of 8300, so 7000 with Air O' Leary.
skyeuropepilot, are you worried your girlfriend/wife (or both
) reads this & you told her you "only" earn 6000 ? ?
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SkyEurope was always succesfuly balancing at the edge of a knife
I have been there, I have seen it all, and I know that for many aviation guys is hard to believe it. But the history of commercial aviation in this area has another roots. This is probably the reason why their founders decided to start it there, in a first place. The thruth is, it would be nice to see SkyEurope flying on and on as long as it could that way. Only if there would not be the world economy crises, that just does not help this way of doing things any more. I whish that Skyeuropeans do a miracle and win the battle of surviving against all odds, esspacialy the economic rules. If they succeed the Aviation economy books would have to add a New chapter for the future students to learn from it.
Best whishes to all of You guys there. Leonidas was also defending Sparta against Persia and fall dead while diong it, but got famous and became a legend. But with a litlle bit more luck...?
Fight for it because it is worth of it, especially if You do not have to loose anything.
Best luck in a PF to come to All of You
Best whishes to all of You guys there. Leonidas was also defending Sparta against Persia and fall dead while diong it, but got famous and became a legend. But with a litlle bit more luck...?
Fight for it because it is worth of it, especially if You do not have to loose anything
.Best luck in a PF to come to All of You
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Please stop this title
Moderator, do your job and modify the title. Any posting along the lines of "xxx going bust", etc may end up a self-fulfilling prophecy if the media gets hold of it. Like it or not, pprune is part of the media now.
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skyeuropepilot, are you worried your girlfriend/wife (or both ) reads this & you told her you "only" earn 6000 ? ?
skyeuropepilot, are you worried your girlfriend/wife (or both ) reads this & you told her you "only" earn 6000 ? ?
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Like I said to you before, you may write quite well in English. but you DON'T understand it, and quite obviously don't understand English humour. 
And BTW you still haven't answered the question I asked you in post No 44.
You seem to be in a minority of 1 here that doesn't understand what we are saying. All the Sky guys seem to get it, you obviously don't, maybe time to leave it alone if your only contribution is to repeat "you have to be clever to see the hidden meaning etc etc etc" Well you are obviously the only one clever enough to understand (even though surely I of all people should know my own reason for starting the thread . . .or I suppose you know my mind better than me) So, as you have now understood everything you could happily leave and save wasting our time trying to understand YOU.
And BTW you still haven't answered the question I asked you in post No 44
.You seem to be in a minority of 1 here that doesn't understand what we are saying. All the Sky guys seem to get it, you obviously don't, maybe time to leave it alone if your only contribution is to repeat "you have to be clever to see the hidden meaning etc etc etc" Well you are obviously the only one clever enough to understand (even though surely I of all people should know my own reason for starting the thread . . .or I suppose you know my mind better than me
) So, as you have now understood everything you could happily leave and save wasting our time trying to understand YOU.
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And Peter Paul ? No, I assume. What is tiresome is people trying to question the (at least partially) valid reason for the threads existence, or cloak it as something it isn't.
Read post No 3 & 6, they were not posted by me.
It is also fairly tiresome to read a post by someone who can only offer by way of contribution to the debate "you have become tiresome". You are not obliged to read the thread, nor post, if that is all you have to offer.
Sorry, taking the time to read your "previous" you appear to be ex AIR FARCE( & ever so slightly anti Ryanair ) what I should have responded with is "Yes Sir" & I bow to your evidently greater knowledge ,social standing, education, and above all flying ability.
Read post No 3 & 6, they were not posted by me.
It is also fairly tiresome to read a post by someone who can only offer by way of contribution to the debate "you have become tiresome". You are not obliged to read the thread, nor post, if that is all you have to offer.
Sorry, taking the time to read your "previous" you appear to be ex AIR FARCE( & ever so slightly anti Ryanair ) what I should have responded with is "Yes Sir" & I bow to your evidently greater knowledge ,social standing, education, and above all flying ability.
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For entertainment, if nothing else!!
Just joking!
capt ... I also have never really encountered someone who seems to be able to construct the language but actually not understand one word of it!
Just joking!
capt ... I also have never really encountered someone who seems to be able to construct the language but actually not understand one word of it!