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Old 9th Aug 2008, 02:12
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Alaska Airlines B-737NG pilot's looking for work

Hello All,

I am a recent poster here and am looking for some information for myself and other colleagues. Our employer, Alaska Airlines, has announced possible furlough's coming this fall, and we expect they will also offer leave's of absense. I know of many of us looking for the opportunity to take a year off and work somewhere else in the world. We would appreciate any leads.

I myself am looking for a one year contract just about anywhere in the world; in particular an interesting place for my family to enjoy immersion in a foreign culture. I have 14,000 hours mostly in B-737 (200, 300, 400, 700, 800, 900) with over 3,500 hours as B-737 PIC. I also have ten years experience as an instructor pilot and line check airman, but would prefer to just fly the line. Rate of pay is less important than decent rostering opportunities, fun and challenging flying and interesting destinations and domiciles.

Cheers,

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India here I come.

Bring Immodium pills.

Seriously, good flying over there, but a different culture amd sanitary conditions.
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Fly Dubai

Try FlyDubai, new start up with NG's. Starting in 2009.
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SpiceJet are looking for DEC on the NG's
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Hi Burks,

try here Pilot Jobs Network - hundreds of airlines listed , if you look at the right column you'll find plenty of contract opportunities.
Finding the best combination of good roster&cool location isn't the easiest thing but not impossible either.
Keep us posted and all the very best with your AS job!
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One word: China. I would look for the Shenzen contract offered by one of those outsourcing firms. You can fly 737NGs at Shenzen Airlines.
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Ryanair -800s, about 28 bases throughout Europe. You can fly with your FAA ATP with a validation from the IAA.

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I am an A330 Captain with a European Airline. I would love to work for a U.S. airline and experience American culture for a few years while my own airline is laying off pilots. I would appreciate if some of our American colleagues could assist me in finding suitable employment as a captain with a U.S. airline.
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Try Cathay, stay in Alaska on a base, you can still take your family on
some adventures without turning their lives upside down. You can fly
747-400 freighters from ANC.
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Tooloose,

OUTSTANDING, we will wait together to be killed in the rush........not.

Innovative post that for the educated I believe has hit it's mark exactly where you intended.

Low & slow

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Sure, but you gotta take Dubya and Big Dick. And get your Guinness in a can. And pay for your medical insurance.

There's a few others, but I think that will suffice for now. I don't want to get greedy.
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Tooloose, actually if the American charter airlines flew A330's we could most likely help you. But seeing as they mostly fly old junk if they are still in business I'm afraid you will have to head to the ME or Asia to help out your poor furloughed fellow pilots. BTW I think Tool maybe a more appropriate name for you.
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Old 12th Aug 2008, 21:42
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stator vane,

In your opinion Tooloose & I are righteous prats, I can live with your considered opinion as I clearly resemble such a puerile remark.

This is what I do for a living, contrary to others I am incredibly proud of what I do and have been in the industry since I was 20. When I was younger I used to wonder at the opinions of those who worked around me but realised over time that cut throat companies have succeeded in eroding terms and conditions that make people like me who will stand for a open, honest and fair playing field of competition be referred to as dinosaurs.

This industry, my industry, your industry is in a time of great flux. I have no great concern if your company goes belly up in these difficult economic times, Lord knows yours has eroded sufficient of the terms and conditions that others of us see as worth fighting for having been employed these years with them to perceive the benefit in fighting to maintain them.

I have no worry if your job were to be taken by an ex-United pilot, I would wish him good luck to be able to work for an outfit that will allow him to work with the licence he holds. When it's you or him and he is cheaper, please do not expect Tooloose and me to be fighting for you.

Have a look at other people’s opinion on the company I believe you work for. Pretty much sums it up for me. Righteous I may be in your opinion but I have worked a long time to get what I believe I deserve, those your age in my company fought hard to ensure I would be in a position to benefit from reasonable terms & conditions and would survive to receive it.

If you are happy doing what you are doing for those who you do it for then smile sweetly and be grateful for still being able, there are those amongst us that will allow others who we cannot compete against to be competitors in our own back yard even if we cannot work for their old employers.

That for me is unacceptable, you are clearly happy to do so. Such is your right of opinion but I do not believe you will see me resort to name calling, I am professional and I would be grateful if you would respect the opinion of others without taking your opinion as being the one that counts.

A job is a job, we all need one, I am grateful for mine and also for the T & C’s I do it under, none of us are safe, those days have gone but if you and yours continue then the industry is far more at risk than for what little you work for now.

An apology if this strikes a chord or upsets you but I am exercising my right to respond to your comment, you are clearly as cut-throat as your company with terms & conditions.

For me, I will still be low & slow and doing my best for fair renumeration, for fair T & C's, a reasonable pension, paid for crew meals, drinks, uniform and everthing else that comes from a reputable outfit.

If you were that good and prepared to fight for it I am sure you would be sat to my right.
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2loose&Jox,

envy and resentment won't help you pass an interview in your home countries, let alone migrating abroad....
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Jox,
Isn't it remarkable to see so many people miss the point completely and prove it at the same time.
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Even more so to see how much help can self appointed spotless professionals give to fellow colleagues in genuine need.
You ain't much of an example guys, no matter how big the bird you fly on or how legacy your airline is given your LoCo comments.
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Tooloose,

We are clearly flying at a higher level even if we are drifting the thread.

I suspect a lot of the guys and girls at the LoCo's would happily move to join us where we are, I see them most days when I get to work.

There must be something that they desire that they could not receive where they came from, good luck and well done to them for moving to get what they wanted. That's a market force.

Tarjet fixated has stuck his hand in the water on another post on this very subject. For the sake of propriety, I suspect we will need to spell it out that the market we seek to maintain is that which employs Aussies, South Africans, New Zealanders and the whole of Europe who have the same right to the job we currently fill. Good on them, glad they are all with us.

Better go, have to get to work.

Low & slow
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Long time watcher first time poster.

Guys and Gals why o why do these threads turn into slagging matches?

For professional people you sure act childish sometimes.

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chief brody. thats the best post so far and I totally agree with you..

Why someone always has to take the absolute negative out of a comment and try to make an issue of it is beyond me..

this post started out with people wanting to look for jobs because of possible lay-off's, and it turned into personal attack... WTF??
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Old 14th Aug 2008, 03:17
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With Gratitude

Thanks for all the leads.....they are appreciated. I do not take offense to any of these posts. I truly wish we could reciprocate with the same opportunities. A few comments. My primary loyalty comes to providing for my family, but I would never scab, or accept employment to the detriment of others. It's not worth it and there are other opportunities. Aviation is a small world, and we look out for each other.

Most of us at Alaska Airlines who are looking at leave's of absense are senior enough to avoid furlough's. However, if we are granted leaves, the more junior (and vulnerable) pilots will remain employed. Personally, I enjoy the flying we do; my loyalty is to my route system more than the corporation. The exposure to the type of flying we do spurs me to seek these types of opportunities elsewhere.

My family has sacrificed a lot with my career choice, but they have always enjoyed travel and we have talked often of pursuing such an opportunity. There are other colleagues of mine who feel the same. We have a wide background to our 1500 pilots; military to many with bush and/or float experience. We have pilots who are from Norway, Australia, Germany, India and elsewhere. We have many who have already flown overseas and whose stories have sated my appetite to do the same.

So thanks again for all the help and if we can ever extend a welcome to anyone travelling to the West coast, or wishing to visit Alaska, please let me know. We look forward to extending the same hospitiality......no matter what you fly!


Cheers,

bburks

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