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and what does your looovely balpa think about that ? TRSS is downgrading terms and conditions. Your low cost airline starts with that and will eventually finish with your working conds and salary , be sure of that 
Keep on recruiting cadets while treating experienced jet/TP pilots like **** ! it seems that you are already on the same heading as Ryanair
Guillaume
Keep on recruiting cadets while treating experienced jet/TP pilots like **** ! it seems that you are already on the same heading as Ryanair
Guillaume
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They say the creator equipped us with 2 ears and only one mouth so we would listen twice as much as we blabbered. I know (s)he also gave you 10 fingers but I suppose this was decided before keyboards were invented. Think about it.
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ahah ! yip but I will have to teach you on a different aircraft than A319, otherwise it's too easy 
TRSS today, tomorrow is the local contract, and after tomorrow it will be easyjet merging in Ryanair to become the biggest europeen/worldwild low cost
I am not in rush to apply, let me wait and see
Guillaume
TRSS today, tomorrow is the local contract, and after tomorrow it will be easyjet merging in Ryanair to become the biggest europeen/worldwild low cost
I am not in rush to apply, let me wait and see
Guillaume
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Ok well I'm rated on the 737 aswell thanks to easyJet so we can go head to head on that.
There are interesting times ahead - none of us deny that, but there are far worse places to work. We are nothing like Ryanair that is for sure!
There are interesting times ahead - none of us deny that, but there are far worse places to work. We are nothing like Ryanair that is for sure!
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depth of the hold pool?
Any ideas on the current depth of the holding pools?
DEP and TRSS?
From website:
"Our pilot recruitment needs for 2007 and early 2008 have now been met. We are still running regular pilot assessments to enter our holding pool. We anticipate that spaces on training courses will be available from late 2008 and into 2009."
So those with late Oct or early Nov 2007 pool entry dates may get a course in a year's time?
DEP and TRSS?
From website:
"Our pilot recruitment needs for 2007 and early 2008 have now been met. We are still running regular pilot assessments to enter our holding pool. We anticipate that spaces on training courses will be available from late 2008 and into 2009."
So those with late Oct or early Nov 2007 pool entry dates may get a course in a year's time?
Angelorange,
Not much recruitment upto October 2008, however the big orange sausage machine gets back upto speed after that. However keep your your ear to the ground as that could all change.
Not much recruitment upto October 2008, however the big orange sausage machine gets back upto speed after that. However keep your your ear to the ground as that could all change.
Angelorange,
Heard from a recruiter lately that there are +130 swimming in the pool at the moment. With the number needed for 2008 it sounds about right with 1 year of waiting. Things could change for good or worse
Heard from a recruiter lately that there are +130 swimming in the pool at the moment. With the number needed for 2008 it sounds about right with 1 year of waiting. Things could change for good or worse
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Bit of a schizo our Snow White . . . last week he was on here on the EJ Paris Base thread be-rating BALPA for ruining zees fantastic company Eeesee Zhjet and today he is moaning that they don't rush in and demand that they sweep him, the Jet God, in on better terms and conditions than theez leetel poonks on zee TEE ER es es Theeng. What was that word I was looking for, Oh yes Conard, that was it.
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Just to go back to the original topic of the thread...
Heard from a very reliable source four days ago that the number for 2008 has been set at 120. No idea about the breakdown i.e. TRSS vs DE vs Cadets.
And now to spin the thread back towards BALPA... Looking around the crew room, there's no doubt a lot of pilots qualified in the "pay for everything yourself" era of aviation. Not talking about TR here, but just Ab Initio or Modular costs (as opposed to the cadet/ex-RAF schemes of old). Yet a couple of weeks ago in a BALPA Newsletter, only ONE of the 12 or so candidates to the executive council talked about the financial worries of recent entrants who had to pay a fortune for their training. How do we afford mortgages AND training loans? How can we contribute enough to the underfunded pensions schemes to makes sure we have a half-decent retirement?
Want to stop the dilution of BALPA membership at EZY? How about spending a little less time wondering how big a yacht you can afford and a little more time addressing the concerns of a significant portion of new entrants? Ahhh, now I feel better
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Heard from a very reliable source four days ago that the number for 2008 has been set at 120. No idea about the breakdown i.e. TRSS vs DE vs Cadets.
And now to spin the thread back towards BALPA... Looking around the crew room, there's no doubt a lot of pilots qualified in the "pay for everything yourself" era of aviation. Not talking about TR here, but just Ab Initio or Modular costs (as opposed to the cadet/ex-RAF schemes of old). Yet a couple of weeks ago in a BALPA Newsletter, only ONE of the 12 or so candidates to the executive council talked about the financial worries of recent entrants who had to pay a fortune for their training. How do we afford mortgages AND training loans? How can we contribute enough to the underfunded pensions schemes to makes sure we have a half-decent retirement?
Want to stop the dilution of BALPA membership at EZY? How about spending a little less time wondering how big a yacht you can afford and a little more time addressing the concerns of a significant portion of new entrants? Ahhh, now I feel better
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On the first point Permafrost, that is encouraging as only a month or so ago the figure was no more than 30.
With regard to the second point I think it is swings & roundabouts. Most pilots have been through the tough times. When I did it there were no schemes in place so I had to arrange everything myself at extortionate rates. When I finished it took me two years to get a job & in the meantime I was made redundant twice. At all times I was a Balpa member because I believed that a strong membership would improve my career prospects in the long term. It would not surprise me if those with mortgages now, could be the paupers in a few years time especially if the expected recession occurs. It might in fact be a good situation next year to have few ties. As for myself, I'm just going to bury my head in the sand & hope.
With regard to the second point I think it is swings & roundabouts. Most pilots have been through the tough times. When I did it there were no schemes in place so I had to arrange everything myself at extortionate rates. When I finished it took me two years to get a job & in the meantime I was made redundant twice. At all times I was a Balpa member because I believed that a strong membership would improve my career prospects in the long term. It would not surprise me if those with mortgages now, could be the paupers in a few years time especially if the expected recession occurs. It might in fact be a good situation next year to have few ties. As for myself, I'm just going to bury my head in the sand & hope.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusion there are plenty of "non-young" pilots out there who had to face the same hardships. I'm just often left with the impression that the people at the top of Balpa have either not been in that situation or have forgotten. I'm not at all convinced BALPA is spending enough (any?) energy on things like lobbying the Inland Revenue so we can pay at least a portion of our loans back pre-tax. Maybe I'm wrong, but having only one of 12 NEC candidates address the issue is not reassuring.
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Permafrost has a valid point but it is also worth noting the british airline pilots association seems to have done little to prevent an invasion of foreign pilots to our shores when there are still many home grown guys and girls out there with licences who cannot get a look in.
It does seem from norman stanleys posts that balpas "next battle" in easyjet to fight for common terms might be taking place because their pilots now feel threatened by the possibility of overseas contracts undermining their UK terms & conditions.
Its a bit late, they should have already been encouraging the company to form mini airlines within each country (like easy swiss) under the easyjet group. It is not a new concept, Air Europe tried it years ago but were too far ahead of their time. I reckon it would work now to the benefit of all concerned.
It does seem from norman stanleys posts that balpas "next battle" in easyjet to fight for common terms might be taking place because their pilots now feel threatened by the possibility of overseas contracts undermining their UK terms & conditions.
Its a bit late, they should have already been encouraging the company to form mini airlines within each country (like easy swiss) under the easyjet group. It is not a new concept, Air Europe tried it years ago but were too far ahead of their time. I reckon it would work now to the benefit of all concerned.
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Just to go back to the original topic of the thread...
Heard from a very reliable source four days ago that the number for 2008 has been set at 120. No idea about the breakdown i.e. TRSS vs DE vs Cadets.
Heard from a very reliable source four days ago that the number for 2008 has been set at 120. No idea about the breakdown i.e. TRSS vs DE vs Cadets.
Is there any news yet on how EZY will fly the GB sumer 2008 programme i.e as a stand alone fleet within ezy or will operations start to mix before then ?
Thanks in advance for any info.
Not necessarily, as there is the issue that Easyjet have been somewhat overcrewed. The original plan was for circa 30 recruits October 07-08 and that was based on 12 aircraft. Now there is a figure of 120.