Whats my £50 used for at Ryanair
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Whats my £50 used for at Ryanair
Why does it cost £50 to apply for a job at
Ryanair?
To apply for a job in their HR department - it is free.
Is there an additional administrative overhead on the pilot recruitment process?
Is it to cut down on timewasters?
Could it be that the pilot recruitment
process is regarded as an additional
revenue stream by the HR dept ??
Or is this too cynical...
Are they sending the right messages to any potential pilot employee.
Do they give you the £50 back after joining?
[ 10 December 2001: Message edited by: RVR800 ]
Ryanair?
To apply for a job in their HR department - it is free.
Is there an additional administrative overhead on the pilot recruitment process?
Is it to cut down on timewasters?
Could it be that the pilot recruitment
process is regarded as an additional
revenue stream by the HR dept ??
Or is this too cynical...
Are they sending the right messages to any potential pilot employee.
Do they give you the £50 back after joining?
[ 10 December 2001: Message edited by: RVR800 ]
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Why does it cost £50 to apply for a job at
Ryanair? - To boost airline revenue (more expensive than a ticket!)
Is there an additional administrative overhead on the pilot recruitment process? Doubt it.
Is it to cut down on timewasters? Nope - just a con.
Could it be that the pilot recruitment
process is regarded as an additional
revenue stream by the HR dept ?? You bet!
Or is this too cynical... - nope - bang on!
Are they sending the right messages to any potential pilot employee. They are sending the "you are an asset - like the PC's" message.
Do they give you the £50 back after joining? Don't hold your breath.
Ryanair? - To boost airline revenue (more expensive than a ticket!)
Is there an additional administrative overhead on the pilot recruitment process? Doubt it.
Is it to cut down on timewasters? Nope - just a con.
Could it be that the pilot recruitment
process is regarded as an additional
revenue stream by the HR dept ?? You bet!
Or is this too cynical... - nope - bang on!
Are they sending the right messages to any potential pilot employee. They are sending the "you are an asset - like the PC's" message.
Do they give you the £50 back after joining? Don't hold your breath.
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Surely any company, whatever their business, wants to attract the best potentional employees to apply, so they can pick the best? The only people who are going to put up with this kind of thing are surely the inexperienced and/or desperate ? (A catagory to which I belong but I'm still not going to cough up and I can't afford/raise funds for the type-rating anyway) A pilot with plenty of hours is simply going to look for a company that doesn't take the p*** in this way. Or am I wrong?
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No, Capt. JB, I think you have it spot on. Basically, experienced pilots, who are not desperate for a job, nor desperately inexperienced, will be idssuaded from applying.
Therefore, they are far more likely to need to recruit anyone who doesn't fork out the £50.
Therefore, they are far more likely to need to recruit anyone who doesn't fork out the £50.
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I say, Vis, that's a bit strong I would have said! I agree that charging £50.00 for a pilot application is the most unusual load of old shoemakers that I have ever heard of, but come on, Vis!
Not sour grapes or something I hope...
Not sour grapes or something I hope...
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The thing is that if you are not employed now or have been layed off, you don´t have a choice of who will recruit you. Beggars can´t be choosers. The market is like it is, very few jobs around and if you are either low time or not it may be the only thing you can get. But everybody knows that the instant that any other job-oppertunity arrives they will jump right away. MOL does obviously know he does not treat his employees well and he knows he can do it while the situation is like right now. 50 quid isn´t alot of money compared to the amounts you have put into your licences. Don´t say that pilots who are taking this contract are stupid because you know otherwise. Yes maybe desperate but not stupid. Do you know how it is to be out of a job with morgage, wife and three children... well some will be desperate if nothing comes their way.
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Myk, to a certain extent I agree with you.
You have to prioritise your job applications. There's no way you can apply to everyone, just for reasons of time filling in online applications, writing the B***S*** exam answers some airlines require, splitting your logged hours 17 different ways for 17 different airlines, printing CV's to be mailed to those who only want mail applications, trying to write original letters to each, keeping up with the Rumours here and contacting all your mates who have mates who might know of jobs at some airline or other, etc. etc.
So, to which are you going to apply first?
The one that you know have disgracefully unfair, degrading and demeaning contracts, exploit their employees in the low times simply because they can, charge their crews for the very shirt on their backs, fire their Union Reps, mislead passengers about their fare structures and "extras", tell lies about their salary levels and which charge you even to get your CV on their system, or just about anyone else?
I know what my answer is.
You have to prioritise your job applications. There's no way you can apply to everyone, just for reasons of time filling in online applications, writing the B***S*** exam answers some airlines require, splitting your logged hours 17 different ways for 17 different airlines, printing CV's to be mailed to those who only want mail applications, trying to write original letters to each, keeping up with the Rumours here and contacting all your mates who have mates who might know of jobs at some airline or other, etc. etc.
So, to which are you going to apply first?
The one that you know have disgracefully unfair, degrading and demeaning contracts, exploit their employees in the low times simply because they can, charge their crews for the very shirt on their backs, fire their Union Reps, mislead passengers about their fare structures and "extras", tell lies about their salary levels and which charge you even to get your CV on their system, or just about anyone else?
I know what my answer is.
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Will, I've known a significant number of bean-counters in my time.
Some have been almost respectable people (one even went to church every day). Some had enough self-knowledge to respect the fact that they didn't know much about what went on beyond the figures in front of them. Some even refrained from beating their wives and robbing sellers of The Big Issue.
However, IMHO, MO'L would not be even remotely related to any of the above. He does not appear to have the slightest sense of morals, or human decency, or respect for his employees, or anyone else, save for what he can get out of them in terms of cash. As far as I can see, the little sh!t does not have a moral bone in his body. I hope he rots in hell.
If anyone would like me to get off the fence and say what I really think, feel free to email me.
Some have been almost respectable people (one even went to church every day). Some had enough self-knowledge to respect the fact that they didn't know much about what went on beyond the figures in front of them. Some even refrained from beating their wives and robbing sellers of The Big Issue.
However, IMHO, MO'L would not be even remotely related to any of the above. He does not appear to have the slightest sense of morals, or human decency, or respect for his employees, or anyone else, save for what he can get out of them in terms of cash. As far as I can see, the little sh!t does not have a moral bone in his body. I hope he rots in hell.
If anyone would like me to get off the fence and say what I really think, feel free to email me.
