BA - Moving to the Right Seat

[Angryfool]

K T

In direct response to some of your questions:

BA would be the sensible move, but I'm not sure about the long period (effectively life for me, as I am over 40) as FO.

The maximum retirement age is now 65, so if you're mid forties then you will have say 20 years in the airline. Difficult to say, but are you likely to get a long haul command? Is this what you would like or would you be happy to stay shorthaul and pick up a command earlier?
If I were to give a prediction, a shorthaul command is more than likely in your time period, not too sure about a longhaul command though, depends on the level of expansion versus stagnation in pilot workforce.

Nice lifestyle, moderate workload, but pay a little below the norm and long term prospects very uncertain.

If you're at LGW, not a great bidding system so not much control over your lifestyle. LHR much better control, work very hard on shorthaul due to the pain of operating in and out of LHR. A modification to our bidline system to be very shortly voted through, I may stand to be corrected, which in theory will bring some added benifits to bidding and hence lifestyle.

[Witraz]

I joined BA some 18 years ago as a DEP, ex self improver light turbo-props and B737 holiday charter.. Numerous old (well they seemed old to me at the time) captains told me how they enjoy the variety and experience the DEP pilots brought to the company. I am now a B777 captain and am finding the same thing. Over 200 DEP’s have joined the fleet in the last few years, with a large cross section of age and experience. So far of these pilots I have flown with all seem to be enjoying their new careers. With 43 aircraft and more on order,there is good variety. I have enjoyed flying with these DEP's and as they have experienced life outside BA, tend to moan very little about their new life style. I cannot speak for short haul as I have only flown long haul. No airline is perfect, being human, we all enjoy a good moan from time to time but to date BA has been good to me in many ways.

[arem]

Some of us were in BA were earning that 10 years ago, so its taken a long time to catch up

[Angryfool]

Pressman

Guys ,

Anyone got the latest on BAs plans for open skies flights , going for assessment soon and would be interested in getting on the 757 fleet to work out of Paris or BRU , wht are the chances of it .

Thx

See the previous threads on this, it aint going to happen with mainline BA pilots!! Well not factually correct as it hasn't happened yet, just a rumour, before rainboe comes on here again and corrects me. By all means ask at the assessment, and be prepared for a very vague answer.

[FlyingOW]

Pay at BA for DEP

Gentlemen,

Could any one confirm how much a DEP is making nowadays? What fleet could one expect to join as such (no Airbus, just wide body MD and Boeing, MH-LH experience, 763ER current type). Am looking to move from current commpany and want to make sure the numbers make sense for the family. Thank you in advance.

OW

[120class]

Try:

www.ppjn.com

They have reasonably good data on European airlines.

Cheers

[FlyingOW]

Hi,

I had already checked on PJN, however it does not mention payscale for a new joiner with experience, as in a non-cadet.

FO top £95 757 27/Jan/05
FO baseCadet entry base is now £28,160 12/Aug/06

Was just wondering what one could expect to be earning in year one and on what fleet. Any chance of the 772 for example? (4 on order) or would one join on their current type?

Thanks again,

OW

[wobble2plank]

DEP basic is about £44k-£45k per annum with flying pay etc on top.

You can realistically expect to make between £10k-£15k in extra pay per year depending on how much you work.

If you have a mil pension this is quite an attractive package.

DEP on 777 is not happening at the moment as there is enough internal movement.

hope that helps

W2P

[CanAV8R]

I am DEP year 2 and take home 3500-4500 a month depending on days off/holidays and overtime. It goes up every year (for now) and BALPA has a major influence within the airline. A good reason in itself to join.


Good luck.

[FlyingOW]

W2P, CanAV8R,

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Cheers,

OW

[MorningGlory]

So then Knee Trembler, did you get into BA? I too am in the same position, current LHS short haul, will be making a move east in the flight deck soon.. Same concerns as you mentioned, just wondering what you decided.

[747-436]

Anyone got the latest on BAs plans for open skies flights , going for assessment soon and would be interested in getting on the 757 fleet to work out of Paris or BRU , wht are the chances of it

http://www.projectlauren.co.uk/


Ad in flight international apprently.

[kierandee]

quick question dozza,

was BA your first job then? i.e. they took you on at 21 fresh out of qualifying?

cheers, kieran

[Knee Trembler]

Morning Glory,

See my entry at the end of:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=147292

Do I luk bovvered.
KT

[CV Donator]

Morning Glory could you check your PMs, thanks.

[MrBernoulli]

KT,

Fingers crosse and all! Do NOT give up hope yet - from the mouth of one of ther horses (if you get my drift), the sim ride is almost ALL about CRM. As long as you and your buddy co-operated well, helped keep each other safe then you're in with a chance. Don't read anything into the length of time it takes to hear anything either. Patience.

[Knee Trembler]

Thanks Mr B, and others who have issued similar reassuring words. Time will no doubt tell and I shall, of course, let you know the outcome.

KT

[Shaka Zulu]

To think that I've actually flown many-a-time with mjenkinsblackdog1 +
being a BA 777FO now.

What are the odds

[WTB]

Can anyone advise what the chances are of being offered a longhaul position on any fleet are? B747-400 / B777 or B757/767?

[badairsucker]

I know BA are looking to take guys on for their holding pool, but will the B777 be an option in the near future. I am currently flying the 777 with CX.

Anyone care to share with me what the wages are like for a DEP on to the 777. Thanks.