BA - Moving to the Right Seat
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Go Expat? Been there, done it. Glad I'm back. Mental note to self, don't do it again.
Good luck with whatever decsion you make Knee Trembler, I just hope that characters such as mjenkinsblackdog1 do not ruin your day in the flight deck.
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Good luck with whatever decsion you make Knee Trembler, I just hope that characters such as mjenkinsblackdog1 do not ruin your day in the flight deck.
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I'd second that! Ignore jenkinsblackdog, there are miserable grumblers in every airline who'll always find something to complain about. Personally I've looked at the numbers going expat and it didn't add up for me after I'd done about 5 years in BA, the gross (tax-free) salary at EK was less than I was earning net in the UK!
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mjenkinsblackdog1
The perfect example of why you have had to flee abroad to ply your trade!
No wonder you can't find anyone at home to employ you!
Shame. You might earn more here!
The perfect example of why you have had to flee abroad to ply your trade!
No wonder you can't find anyone at home to employ you!
Shame. You might earn more here!
mjenkinsblackdog1:
My wife has just been on e-bay (again) and has found a pristine set of Tandemrotor/Hand Solo bookends on offer. They come with a completely genuine pink spectacles overview of the future of UK aviation and I don't think you can afford to be without one of these desirable items.
The highest bid so far is €13.97 so perhaps you could surprise your wife with this exclusive gift?
My wife has just been on e-bay (again) and has found a pristine set of Tandemrotor/Hand Solo bookends on offer. They come with a completely genuine pink spectacles overview of the future of UK aviation and I don't think you can afford to be without one of these desirable items.
The highest bid so far is €13.97 so perhaps you could surprise your wife with this exclusive gift?
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Of course the future is so much rosier in the middle or far east with there complete absence of employment protection laws. After all you never see anyone on Pprune complaining about being stiffed by Emirates or Etihad, or griping about how bad things have become at Cathay. Singapore or Korean? Models of expatriate happiness! Perhaps the rose tint you are seeing is through your glasses? Must make your doomsday prophecies much easier to write.
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Then perhaps you should introduce yourself to the individual Hand Solo mentioned.
I feel sure your "other half" will know who is being spoken of!
Are you saying your "other half" isn't
No, obviously not!]
JW411, since you clearly know nothing of BA, perhaps you should defer??
Have either of us said anything that you know to be incorrect?
Didn't think so!
Keep those jamjars on my friend. Must help your illusion of superiority.
I feel sure your "other half" will know who is being spoken of!
Are you saying your "other half" isn't
comfortably exceeding £100k?
JW411, since you clearly know nothing of BA, perhaps you should defer??
Have either of us said anything that you know to be incorrect?
Didn't think so!
Keep those jamjars on my friend. Must help your illusion of superiority.
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Wow
As stated before, £200k would have to be a very senior long haul trainer and a lot of overtime without a life outside work. I wouldn't say it was the norm would you? Perhaps in the top 0.25% at a guess, not really representative.
Knee Trembler
If you decide to chose BA there will be certain benifits, but if pay is a big issue then there are better opportunities out there. What you will get is a nice flight deck environment, a stable roster and good benifits. Time to command could be between 8-15 years depending upon various scenarios such as expansion and part-time opportunities. The pension is not great, but at least you know that when you join.
Chatting to an interviewer the other day; his opinion is that most people chose BA or Virgin, a few Easy.
Best of luck
There are pilots in BA earning £200k! Not many admittedly, but comfortably exceeding £100k is not unusual.
Knee Trembler
If you decide to chose BA there will be certain benifits, but if pay is a big issue then there are better opportunities out there. What you will get is a nice flight deck environment, a stable roster and good benifits. Time to command could be between 8-15 years depending upon various scenarios such as expansion and part-time opportunities. The pension is not great, but at least you know that when you join.
Chatting to an interviewer the other day; his opinion is that most people chose BA or Virgin, a few Easy.
Best of luck
For those people thinking of BA, I would suggest joining BALPA and having a look at the comparative payscales on the website. It lists all of the paypoints. I would have to agree with previous posters in that any Long Haul Captain in BA is on well over 100K, and I would venture to guess over 125K, even without overtime. Many of the crew live abroad with all of the "benefits" that entails. The nice thing is that there are always opportunities for overtime if that is what floats your boat. However, most of us are trying to do the minimum and try and get the work/life balance right.
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Knee T,
I joined BA as a long-haul DEP in my 40s, a couple of years ago, having finished my mil career as a 4-jet captain. No big deal at all. The technology leap was a big one but I am happy with my lot as an FO.
Dip your toes in the water. BA is still the only outfit here with no bond! You have nothing to lose!
I joined BA as a long-haul DEP in my 40s, a couple of years ago, having finished my mil career as a 4-jet captain. No big deal at all. The technology leap was a big one but I am happy with my lot as an FO.
Dip your toes in the water. BA is still the only outfit here with no bond! You have nothing to lose!
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Hi,
I would have to second the general sentiment here about life in the RHS in BA. Generally a great bunch of people and very relaxed, but professional. I'm more than happy
With regards to remuneration, I would say 75%+ of full time BA skippers would be earning more than £100k. Pay point 24 longhaul basic is now something like £140k. Add a 22.5% top up for trainers, then add allowances. So a pay point 24 longhaul training Capt, without overtime, would be grossing around £180k......... Can't imagine that there are too many airlines in the world paying more?!
Regards,
Cuban_8
I would have to second the general sentiment here about life in the RHS in BA. Generally a great bunch of people and very relaxed, but professional. I'm more than happy
With regards to remuneration, I would say 75%+ of full time BA skippers would be earning more than £100k. Pay point 24 longhaul basic is now something like £140k. Add a 22.5% top up for trainers, then add allowances. So a pay point 24 longhaul training Capt, without overtime, would be grossing around £180k......... Can't imagine that there are too many airlines in the world paying more?!
Regards,
Cuban_8