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From the other side of the fence.
Firstly, may I congratulate you all on your steely resolve and more than holding your own in a hard fought battle. After the best part of twenty years with Mon Engineering its great to finally see the management facing some stiff resistance.
Secondly, I wish to make a plea for your assistance in our own battle! As you are all well aware, Enginneerings pay negotiations are not going particularly well (no surprise there).
So badly in fact that after the proposed offer of 4.2% accompanied by the loss of our paid lunch breaks (paid in order to ensure flexibility), I now find myself and most Line engineers facing a pay cut in the region of 700-1000 quid a year. Unfortunatly that equates to 700 pounds worth of effort that I will no longer be making.
When One 0'clock rolls round I will be on my unpaid lunch break reguardless of how many broken aircraft are scattered across the ramp.
For this reason I am requesting that you guys and girls please do not take our lack of co-operation personally and offer you support in any way you can. Many thanks.
Secondly, I wish to make a plea for your assistance in our own battle! As you are all well aware, Enginneerings pay negotiations are not going particularly well (no surprise there).
So badly in fact that after the proposed offer of 4.2% accompanied by the loss of our paid lunch breaks (paid in order to ensure flexibility), I now find myself and most Line engineers facing a pay cut in the region of 700-1000 quid a year. Unfortunatly that equates to 700 pounds worth of effort that I will no longer be making.
When One 0'clock rolls round I will be on my unpaid lunch break reguardless of how many broken aircraft are scattered across the ramp.
For this reason I am requesting that you guys and girls please do not take our lack of co-operation personally and offer you support in any way you can. Many thanks.

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Thats fine chuzwuza. I would rather you take your time and make sure the job is done properly and that you are suitably refreshed so that you can concentrate on the engineering job. Last thing I want is an aircraft with problems in the air. Pretty certain all the crews (and the paying public) will support your cause.

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Chuzwuza, a few of us have worked out the financial cost to our pockets of this generous payoffer and came up with a figure of approximately £2000/yr. As you rightly say, it is the Line that is hit with the changes in t's and c's, more so than the hangar and office staff. They keep on chipping away................


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Am hearing that the Pilots and them there Management are talking to ACAS.
Will ACAS look to see if Monarch are paying the going rate or do they just tell them to not talk dirty?
Will ACAS look to see if Monarch are paying the going rate or do they just tell them to not talk dirty?


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A little disingenuous, Alloy.
The actual number of papers returned was bloody high. Most of the time you can expect about a 55% return on pay ballots the latest one was significantly higher than that.
The offer was accepted by an OVERWHELMING majority.
The actual number of papers returned was bloody high. Most of the time you can expect about a 55% return on pay ballots the latest one was significantly higher than that.
The offer was accepted by an OVERWHELMING majority.

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Too many guys voted yes , claiming that it was just ' dragging on too long '.
Numbers of papers returned may well have been higher than the average but were considerably less than those returned for our previous ballots, suggesting an unhealthy outbreak of apathy.
Not handled at all well by big Balpa, with two strike ballots interrupted by recommended offers before a true reflection of feeling was known. They were unsure if the first ballot was legal, as they met with management when it was still out to members and recommended an offer ! What are we paying BALPA subs for when they don't seem to know what they're doing ? There's no greater bargaining tool than an overwhelming vote to strike. A true reflection was never gained as a result. How dreadfully shabby.
The popping of champagne corks must have been deafening at Prospect House when the result was known. The problems of roster disruption, wrong numbers at bases and some guys being flogged to death while others do considerably less flying still remains, and will NOT change.
A missed opportunity.

Not handled at all well by big Balpa, with two strike ballots interrupted by recommended offers before a true reflection of feeling was known. They were unsure if the first ballot was legal, as they met with management when it was still out to members and recommended an offer ! What are we paying BALPA subs for when they don't seem to know what they're doing ? There's no greater bargaining tool than an overwhelming vote to strike. A true reflection was never gained as a result. How dreadfully shabby.
The popping of champagne corks must have been deafening at Prospect House when the result was known. The problems of roster disruption, wrong numbers at bases and some guys being flogged to death while others do considerably less flying still remains, and will NOT change.
A missed opportunity.