What is your take-home pay at the end of the month?
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B1 Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer with multiple Airbus and Boeing type ratings.
Permenant job:
About £55-60k gross per annum with a bit of overtime (£3200-3400 monthly take home).
Contractor:
£6k per month take home working week on/week off. £10k per month is easily achievable if you are prepared to put the hours in.
Permenant job:
About £55-60k gross per annum with a bit of overtime (£3200-3400 monthly take home).
Contractor:
£6k per month take home working week on/week off. £10k per month is easily achievable if you are prepared to put the hours in.
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Its all good fun to read through the various posts here and l think it is fair to say you need to be a little sceptical over some of the claims. There have been posts from at least 3 BA shorthaul 2nd year F/O's with take home ranging from £2800 up to £4000. Quite a spread!! Now either Mr £2800 is being ripped off or the other Nigels are inflating their pay to make everyone think it is still the job it used to be (which off course it isn't). Maybe the paycuts are to help with T5??
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I am ATPL frozen and applied for many jobs but somehow never get replies from airlines. Work as software developer on avionics systems and make about £80k with bonus.
Good mate of mine paid for Ryanair placement, he spent about £40K so far (on top of £60k he spent to become pilot) for type rating and living costs whilst doing unpaid flying for them. He reckons he will need another £10-15K to complete training and get to FO position which will make him about £50 per flying hour (excluding delays/aircraft technical problems non-flyable time)
Good mate of mine paid for Ryanair placement, he spent about £40K so far (on top of £60k he spent to become pilot) for type rating and living costs whilst doing unpaid flying for them. He reckons he will need another £10-15K to complete training and get to FO position which will make him about £50 per flying hour (excluding delays/aircraft technical problems non-flyable time)
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£40k Fire Brigade
I currently work in the Fire Brigade in charge of a single-appliance watch in London near LCY, over £2,000 pm take home after 11% final salary pension contributions.
Always wanted to fly (7hrs in gliders age 14), thinking of qualifying and wondering about the possibility of getting some kind of part-time flying job such as instructing.
Any ideas for a mature student? What kind of commercial operator would use part-time pilots?
Always wanted to fly (7hrs in gliders age 14), thinking of qualifying and wondering about the possibility of getting some kind of part-time flying job such as instructing.
Any ideas for a mature student? What kind of commercial operator would use part-time pilots?
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Aelkobi, mmmmmmmmm, sounds like great fun that desk of yours. What cruising altitude does that bad boy get up to?? You continue to enjoy it and keep counting all that money. As long as you are getting job satisfaction that is all that counts!!!!
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matt999, there are no airlines that will take you on as part time with your level of experience but l would recommend getting your PPL then progressing on to getting an instructors rating. This will allow you to do some training jobs (part time) so you build up your hours and get someone else to pay for the aircraft hire. Who knows, when you build enough hours you can either stay as you are or progress onto ATPL level then get an airline job. Plenty of jobs out there at the moment.
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BA paypoint 4 shorthaul F/O. In an ordinary month £3600-3900 take home, however I make an extra voluntary contribution into the pension fund of about £300/month. If I didn't, it would add £180 (cos it would be taxed!) to the above. If I really wanted see my soul and needed the cash I could probably add a few more £hundred with some overtime.
The variation is due to doing a little less or a little more work from month to month which bidline permits. Also number of nights away/month (which can be between 2-15 though I'm normally somewhere in the middle). More nights away = more £ due allowances.
Wigster,
A fair chunk of this is made up from flying pay/downroute allowances, which are paid the month after. e.g. If I am on leave/days off for all of May, then my June pay would be about £2700, which would explain the variation you mention.
The variation is due to doing a little less or a little more work from month to month which bidline permits. Also number of nights away/month (which can be between 2-15 though I'm normally somewhere in the middle). More nights away = more £ due allowances.
Wigster,
A fair chunk of this is made up from flying pay/downroute allowances, which are paid the month after. e.g. If I am on leave/days off for all of May, then my June pay would be about £2700, which would explain the variation you mention.
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Year 3 Ryanair SFO, Permanent contract, Euro Base. Depending on the Flight hours per month, and if choosing to work days off (Rare) the Salary has varied in extremes from €4000-6000 net although the average has been €4800 net. This comprises of Basic salary of €2500 net and average sector cheque of €2300.
Very cleverly structured salary structure so that you earn a pittance in the first two years when your experience level is not really enough to get yourself employed anywhere else, but when you have the hours THEY need to upgrade you as a Captain you start to earn a reasonably attractive wage. Carrot on a stick anyone?
Very cleverly structured salary structure so that you earn a pittance in the first two years when your experience level is not really enough to get yourself employed anywhere else, but when you have the hours THEY need to upgrade you as a Captain you start to earn a reasonably attractive wage. Carrot on a stick anyone?
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Year 1 BA shorthaul; £3500 gross per month. That may be why there is a spread, others may take tax into account. By the way, whilst it may not be the job it used to be, it is still better at BA that most others. And guess what, we get to charge our mobile phones whilst at work! (oh and no charge for drinking water either 
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SEAMASTER, glad to say that I'm just running a flat and a car in GLA on that cheque, otherwise yes, it would be horrendous! I guess thats the going rate for a junior FO on a TP these days though eh? Just my luck lol!
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rons22, Im interested to know when your mate started with Ryanair, I have been flying with them for 18 months, when I did the TR, it cost me approx £20k including living expenses, If you mate paid £40k he must have stayed at the Ritz!!!!! I then started line training and from day 1 of line training I was paid, admittedly you don’t get paid flight pay while your training but there is no unpaid flying, you only get a “basic” salary but that was only for 6 weeks then I was signed off to the line and got half sector pay for 6 months along with my basic, that equated to a net monthly amount of around £2000 when I went on to full sector pay 6 months later my average net salary was £2700 to £3000 per month.
I have to wonder just what your mate needed this extra £10-£15k to complete his training? Also you mention technical problems in my 18 months there, I have only ever known one aircraft to go tech on us, that’s a pretty good statistic.
I cant quite believe that your mate exists, if he does he is either telling you a complete load of crap or you are providing that on his behalf, if you started your line training and were soo far from the required standard that it was going to cost another £10k to £15k, ryanair would get rid of you long before that as it would be apparent that he/she clearly are not up to flying the 737 at all !!! Sorry mate, dont mean to be harsh but what you say about your “good mate” simply cannot be true
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I have to wonder just what your mate needed this extra £10-£15k to complete his training? Also you mention technical problems in my 18 months there, I have only ever known one aircraft to go tech on us, that’s a pretty good statistic.
I cant quite believe that your mate exists, if he does he is either telling you a complete load of crap or you are providing that on his behalf, if you started your line training and were soo far from the required standard that it was going to cost another £10k to £15k, ryanair would get rid of you long before that as it would be apparent that he/she clearly are not up to flying the 737 at all !!! Sorry mate, dont mean to be harsh but what you say about your “good mate” simply cannot be true
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Bose Wave,
maybe he's taking out certain expenses I.E. uniform or car parking at airports that you guys have to pay for (so it really shouldn't be counted as salary as a lot of it actually goes on expenses you have to pay in order to fly for the airline anyway). You can't include things like uniform and car parking in your salary. If you do, then I might as well work out how much BA spend on my uniform and everything else per year, and then add that onto my salary and tell everyone I earn much more than I actually do...
maybe he's taking out certain expenses I.E. uniform or car parking at airports that you guys have to pay for (so it really shouldn't be counted as salary as a lot of it actually goes on expenses you have to pay in order to fly for the airline anyway). You can't include things like uniform and car parking in your salary. If you do, then I might as well work out how much BA spend on my uniform and everything else per year, and then add that onto my salary and tell everyone I earn much more than I actually do...
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Very interesting: I had always imagined the pay was generally higher. The highest I noticed was that a380 fellow. Certainly my nephew, BA/747 does quite nicely for his age.
Anyway, here in Seoul for me around 27,000 USD pm net plus medical and 3 flights a year.
Anyway, here in Seoul for me around 27,000 USD pm net plus medical and 3 flights a year.
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Granted I hear what you say but this bloke is talking about £10k to £15k, on top of a rating thats cost him £40k, a uniform is about £300 and you only buy one of them and parking is £20.00 per month times by 12 for the year £240 ok so we pay for our medical too, about £150 so all in £690. Yes it is a pain in the a$$ but adding that to your salary is not exactly going to make it seem "much higher" is it?
Also people bang on about buying a uniform like its buying a house, its something you buy once for a couple of hundred quid, I know a guy who wouldnt go to FR because of the requirement to buy a uniform, its not that big a deal, its something that you have to get over for the sake of £300, hes still without a flying job.....
Also people bang on about buying a uniform like its buying a house, its something you buy once for a couple of hundred quid, I know a guy who wouldnt go to FR because of the requirement to buy a uniform, its not that big a deal, its something that you have to get over for the sake of £300, hes still without a flying job.....