Pilots leaveing City Jet turns into a flood
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Slick 69 it might be better to ask one of your colleagues than to ask that it is broadcast to all and sundry here. Image if you were a management representative intent on ..... whatever (you're not, are you?). If you are a CityJet pilot and you are really stuck you could always try telephoning IALPA!
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Good Luck to you all!!!!!!
I used to work for these bullying bastards!!!
I got put out on gardening leave for sticking up for the rights of my crew, I am glad you are now making a stand against Rea--n and co.
The guys n girls at City Jet are the finest people I have ever worked with and I miss my time with them! So stand up and be counted!!!
Your management are making fuc---g fortunes in bonuses and other areas ie ab initio training and sim hire!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you succeed !!!!!!
Good Luck to you all............................... Muppets Mate
I used to work for these bullying bastards!!!
I got put out on gardening leave for sticking up for the rights of my crew, I am glad you are now making a stand against Rea--n and co.
The guys n girls at City Jet are the finest people I have ever worked with and I miss my time with them! So stand up and be counted!!!
Your management are making fuc---g fortunes in bonuses and other areas ie ab initio training and sim hire!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you succeed !!!!!!
Good Luck to you all............................... Muppets Mate
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I dont have anything against US citizen coming to Europe, as long they spend their money here and go home after VISITING europe( for 2-3 weeks). outside of this, you are the unwelcome and you are "technically" illegal in Europe if you come to work here.
when I see the numbers of emails from EU friends contacting me, cuz they have no job and can not get experience, I think this is disgusting to know what the Irish government is doing to them after spending a fortune in their JAR license.
to all US citizen:"GO HOME !"
when I see the numbers of emails from EU friends contacting me, cuz they have no job and can not get experience, I think this is disgusting to know what the Irish government is doing to them after spending a fortune in their JAR license.
to all US citizen:"GO HOME !"
Any idea how much EU citizens fly in the US/Asia/middle east !?
you dumbass.
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It has come down to this,if you dont show up for the meeting please please will you contact IALPA and vote when the time comes,its not to have a go at Cityjet its to try and make your lives a little better.God knows we have been abused bye the Co so far.If we dont take this chance,we have no one to blame.Input from all No ONE PERSONS agenda.Dont forget Tony R****n is operating without any counter balance, absolute power currupts absolutely
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CityJet management have been blocking your private emails from Ialpa.Despite this 11 times more pilots turned up for the ialpa meetings in CDG than turned up for one of their "communication meetings.
Well done lads!!!!!!!!
Also ialpa recieved many emails and telephone calls of support from City Jet pilots who couldn't make it.
Hopefully the Dublin pilots will turn up in force for Ialpa meeting on 30th Jan in ALSAA at 11.00am and 15.00pm.
Now the bullying from CityJet management will start in earnest.
When anybody who attended the ialpa meeting come under bullying from CityJet management make it known to Ialpa and air it on PPRUNE.
If we all stick together we will win this one!
Well done lads!!!!!!!!
Also ialpa recieved many emails and telephone calls of support from City Jet pilots who couldn't make it.
Hopefully the Dublin pilots will turn up in force for Ialpa meeting on 30th Jan in ALSAA at 11.00am and 15.00pm.
Now the bullying from CityJet management will start in earnest.
When anybody who attended the ialpa meeting come under bullying from CityJet management make it known to Ialpa and air it on PPRUNE.
If we all stick together we will win this one!
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use your head!!!!!
I may be mistaken but what the hell are you doing posting the time and dated of the meetings......the managment have access and you would be sure that they will have the smilling assasin as he has come to be known having lunch in alsaa. ( as he did in paris..to take names of the guys going in)
It is time ladies and gents to be intellegent and smart about this whole agenda.
I agree with puddle hopper we should give support...it wont cost you anything, and hay maybe we might get somewhere. The only people who i have heard say a bad word against this, are the guys with their heads so far up the managers ass....hoping to get into the inner circle.
Good luck to all
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Well well,
Just reading along... had no clue some were called "smiling assassin(s)". More than one? It seems hard to figure out who one can really trust...
Just reading along... had no clue some were called "smiling assassin(s)". More than one? It seems hard to figure out who one can really trust...
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Momentum...
What you guys need to do urgently is set up your own forum like we have at REPA and take this discussion out of the Public eye. A Private forum for your elected representatives is also important as you do get low life pond scum who get leaned on by management for their passwords to the public side, right LEO....
You are well on your way guys, IALPA are the business if you use them properly:
From www.ireland.com
Pilots' union seeks meeting with CityJet on pay and pensions
Ciarán Hancock
A number of pilots at CityJet, a Dublin-based subsidiary of Air France, have met the Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) and are expected to seek a meeting with the airline's management to discuss a number of grievances.
It is understood about 70 of CityJet's 170 pilots have met the IALPA recently. Two meetings were held yesterday at a sports complex near Dublin airport.
A number of the pilots are thought to be unhappy with pay levels, pension provisions and aspects of their rostering. As CityJet is a regional airline, feeding passengers into Air France's Paris hub from Dublin and the UK, its pay levels tend to lag those of larger carriers, including Aer Lingus and Ryanair.
IALPA wrote to CityJet's management before Christmas to seek a meeting but received no response. The airline does not recognise trade unions.
It is understood the pilots' union will write to the airline in early February to again seek a meeting with management.
The pilots are also thought to be considering making a complaint over their pay to the Labour Court, a move used against Ryanair, which also does not recognise unions. The Supreme Court is due to give its verdict on the right of the Labour Court to rule on this matter on Thursday. An adverse judgment could cost Ryanair €20 million.
A spokesman for CityJet, which carries 1.5 million passengers annually and has revenues of €254 million, said the airline has a "positive and effective internal communications process" and there was no need for a third-party negotiator.
"CityJet staff enjoy the best global staff travel facilities in association with Air France and pilots, uniquely for the airline industry, enjoy the support of loss of licence and income continuance benefits, which are arranged and funded by the company."
CityJet last year announced plans to spend $221 million on 23 AVRO RJ aircraft to replace its ageing fleet. It is also expected to announce the expansion of services from London.
You are well on your way guys, IALPA are the business if you use them properly:
From www.ireland.com
Pilots' union seeks meeting with CityJet on pay and pensions
Ciarán Hancock
A number of pilots at CityJet, a Dublin-based subsidiary of Air France, have met the Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) and are expected to seek a meeting with the airline's management to discuss a number of grievances.
It is understood about 70 of CityJet's 170 pilots have met the IALPA recently. Two meetings were held yesterday at a sports complex near Dublin airport.
A number of the pilots are thought to be unhappy with pay levels, pension provisions and aspects of their rostering. As CityJet is a regional airline, feeding passengers into Air France's Paris hub from Dublin and the UK, its pay levels tend to lag those of larger carriers, including Aer Lingus and Ryanair.
IALPA wrote to CityJet's management before Christmas to seek a meeting but received no response. The airline does not recognise trade unions.
It is understood the pilots' union will write to the airline in early February to again seek a meeting with management.
The pilots are also thought to be considering making a complaint over their pay to the Labour Court, a move used against Ryanair, which also does not recognise unions. The Supreme Court is due to give its verdict on the right of the Labour Court to rule on this matter on Thursday. An adverse judgment could cost Ryanair €20 million.
A spokesman for CityJet, which carries 1.5 million passengers annually and has revenues of €254 million, said the airline has a "positive and effective internal communications process" and there was no need for a third-party negotiator.
"CityJet staff enjoy the best global staff travel facilities in association with Air France and pilots, uniquely for the airline industry, enjoy the support of loss of licence and income continuance benefits, which are arranged and funded by the company."
CityJet last year announced plans to spend $221 million on 23 AVRO RJ aircraft to replace its ageing fleet. It is also expected to announce the expansion of services from London.
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The meetings in Dublin had the pleasure of jack the KNIFE,if thats not a sign that they are worried i dont know what is,and threatening email from HR dept about giving out phone numbers.They are trying to close down any form of communications ,because they are afraid,CITYJET are opening a base in London ,Jeff is about to anounce larg scale expansion,with city looking for another 5/8 Rj 100son top fo all the rest.So if we can push on and get this thing up and running ,they are it costing them alot of money,THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO LOOSE ANY PILOTS 
NOW is the time.If we do not do it now we will never do it ,and therefore deserve everything we get there after.We HAVE TO VOTE VOTE VOTE,please contact IALPA and give your input ,yours forever hopeful.
NOW is the time.If we do not do it now we will never do it ,and therefore deserve everything we get there after.We HAVE TO VOTE VOTE VOTE,please contact IALPA and give your input ,yours forever hopeful.
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The reason why this posting is gone very quite is because yet again IALPA has failed.Praticaly no one turned up for your Dublin meetings.
Dont know why you would want to work for such a crumby outfit when you are all welcome in Ryan Air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont know why you would want to work for such a crumby outfit when you are all welcome in Ryan Air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Its not over till the fat lady sings.I urge all city jet pilots to return their ballot papers signed.You can get them through ialpa or u know who.The fact that we have a bullying management similar to Ryan Air seems to give Mr Chaos something to rejoice about!
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Our Captain Chaos is so obviously a Ryanair employee (who is not a pilot) that it is embarrassing. Captain Chaos the "offensive to everybody in sight" arrogance you demonstrate is by now associated with Ryanair by most people with even a vague familiarity with aviation. Since you probably lack the capacity to feel embarrassment you are unlikely to understand what disgust your patronising attitude generates far and wide. And I don't need a lecture about profitability from you; any management that treated its employees as you do would make a lot of money.
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having read the last 6 pages of this thread it obivious that this is not just a problem at Cityjet. What is it with Bae146 companies? They all seem to treat their employees with contempt. National Jet Systems is another example of this
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Reading through this thread, I wonder : why in the world take on such self-imposed pain remaining with this crap airline ???? I mean, there is so many nice jobs out there, great pays, fab conditions, extraordinay aircraft, beautiful networks...
WHY STAY ????
WHY STAY ????
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All Bae 146 operators see them selvs as the bottom of the aviation world ,so that gives them the excuse to treat there staff badly,because they will not stay ,or so they think .but the real reason is BAD management ,if you express your views the answer is { if you are not happy leave } .All the while management pilots are paid OFF for there 30 peaces of silver.Not alot for your sole.so as line pilots all we are left with is pprune now that is sad.As we are on about Silver ,i hear citty is about to make an announcement about pay.increease in the region of 10/15 % just keep in mind they have not been paying the crews properly for years,but its better then nothing.If its there intention to try and stop the hemorrhage of PILOTS to places like EASY JET then they are a long way short of the mark.Line pilots are on a basic of 100000 euro plus thats where they start,Good luck citty