Pilots leaveing City Jet turns into a flood
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Pilots leaveing City Jet turns into a flood
A total of 5 capatains have left City Jet within the last week. 3 for Emirate's,1 for Easy Jet and 1 for Dragon. A considerable amount of f/o's are to resign next month to join Ryan Air. Recent management "communications meetings" have being attended by as few as 3 pilots at at time. If management have still not got the message that morale is at an all time low by now they never will.
It is vitally important that City Jet pilots attent the IALPA meetings that are scheduled to start shortly. It is also vital that City Jet pilots realise that all IALPA needs is more than 50% of pilots to vote for a City Jet working group. The pilots that vote may not nessecarily be members of IALPA,or turn up at IALPA meetings, but the fact that they vote will give IALPA the mandate to represent us.You can still remain totally annonymouse and escape management bullying. Details will follow. Support IALPA and things will change for the better.,
It is vitally important that City Jet pilots attent the IALPA meetings that are scheduled to start shortly. It is also vital that City Jet pilots realise that all IALPA needs is more than 50% of pilots to vote for a City Jet working group. The pilots that vote may not nessecarily be members of IALPA,or turn up at IALPA meetings, but the fact that they vote will give IALPA the mandate to represent us.You can still remain totally annonymouse and escape management bullying. Details will follow. Support IALPA and things will change for the better.,
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Capt.Paul Skinback You have my sympathy, I work for the Evil Empire accross the road and no doubt the downward pressure your employer is trying to apply to your salary and terms and conditions is as a direct affect of what they see happening over here. Monkey see Monkey do. It should be a stark warning to Pilots in all Airlines that a sneering "I'm allright Jack" attitude will turn around and give them a major bite in the ass.
The only way for you guys in Cityjet is to get yourself organised. I can tell you from what I've seen IALPA are the business, they certainly shame the likes of BALPA. Wishing you the best from accross the road!
The only way for you guys in Cityjet is to get yourself organised. I can tell you from what I've seen IALPA are the business, they certainly shame the likes of BALPA. Wishing you the best from accross the road!
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What about all these US Pilots they were going to get?
No one in Cityjet top brass can be suprised they are loosing people. Their Salary is crap. 33K STG a year for a Captain is hardly anything to get excited about is it?
No one in Cityjet top brass can be suprised they are loosing people. Their Salary is crap. 33K STG a year for a Captain is hardly anything to get excited about is it?
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Ah yes - and the beatings WILL continue until pilot morale improves. You've been warned 
It's the wx way.....
It's the wx way.....
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Pilots leaving Cityjet
Why are so many pilots leaving CityJet? What is the current pay for Captains there? I might be interviewing there in the near future so any info would be a great help.
Thanks,
Iwagg
Thanks,
Iwagg
A total of 5 capatains have left City Jet within the last week. 3 for Emirate's,1 for Easy Jet and 1 for Dragon. A considerable amount of f/o's are to resign next month to join Ryan Air. Recent management "communications meetings" have being attended by as few as 3 pilots at at time. If management have still not got the message that morale is at an all time low by now they never will.
It is vitally important that City Jet pilots attent the IALPA meetings that are scheduled to start shortly. It is also vital that City Jet pilots realise that all IALPA needs is more than 50% of pilots to vote for a City Jet working group. The pilots that vote may not nessecarily be members of IALPA,or turn up at IALPA meetings, but the fact that they vote will give IALPA the mandate to represent us.You can still remain totally annonymouse and escape management bullying. Details will follow. Support IALPA and things will change for the better.,
It is vitally important that City Jet pilots attent the IALPA meetings that are scheduled to start shortly. It is also vital that City Jet pilots realise that all IALPA needs is more than 50% of pilots to vote for a City Jet working group. The pilots that vote may not nessecarily be members of IALPA,or turn up at IALPA meetings, but the fact that they vote will give IALPA the mandate to represent us.You can still remain totally annonymouse and escape management bullying. Details will follow. Support IALPA and things will change for the better.,
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I applied a few years ago, and cocked up and missed my Ryanair flight from BVA and the planned interview. Whilst I regretted it at the time( as I was living in Paris) their subsequent attitude , and the salary / conditions I retrospectively heard of years later, led me to believe I had a lucky escape.Travelled as a pax with them a few times when I did a bit of Fokkering out of CDG with Gill , and always found our AF franchise competitor's crews friendly and welcoming, but always felt I was being intoxicated by Bae`s finest fumes in the cabin. If they are calling you Ryanairlite it sounds time to move (seriously) up, or out.
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Whats up with the morale at cityjet? OK, money is always an issue but in most cases the company morale is depending on a couple of subtle details. 
Or if I asked the other way around: Could a salary increase alone boost the morale? 
Is there a difference between Dublin and Paris based crews? What need to be done and can it be done?
Good luck anyway!
Or if I asked the other way around: Could a salary increase alone boost the morale? Is there a difference between Dublin and Paris based crews? What need to be done and can it be done? Good luck anyway!
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Cityjet is has/is hiring former RJ85 Captains / FO's from Mesaba Airlines. Captain pay is almost $100K and FO pay is around $65K and the income is tax free. Plus cityjet is giving each Mesaba pilot their own furnished apartment + a car. They have offered Mesaba pilots 1 year contracts and it sounds like their will be a good chance to extended the contract if cityjet is indeed short staffed. It sounds like a pretty good compensation package to me. Do the 1 year Mesaba contracts fall in line with how the other cityjet pilots are compensated?
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How are City Jet employing american certified pilots? Did the guys convert thier qualifications by sitting all the JAA exams? Can European pilots now work in the US? This isnt a party political broadcast but in asking around I have heard differing explanations and a good deal of woffle.
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That was probably BEFORE the recent french law which states that if your operational base is in france you have to pay social security (and probably soon taxes as well) in france, whatever company you work for wherever you live. So be carefull with tax free....
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I'll never willingly give another penny to ALPA.
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I'll never willingly give another penny to ALPA
There is, quite literally, an ocean between them.
The world does not revolve around the ‘US’ acebaxter.... (despite CityJet's current recruitment policy).
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How can US pilots be employed in Europe. Ask the IAA , who have always allowed Ryanair a "little" bit of latitude in whom they employ. For further clarification rearrange the following words to reproduce a malicious accusation. . . . . . . bag, cash ,paper ,full of, brown. As far as taxes go, City Jet is not Air France so the core operation is in Dublin. This normally should result in City Jet being allowed to pay your social charges in Ireland , and you likewise your taxes, to your mutual benefit. The Frogs can come knocking on your door to claim the shortfall between what you paid in Ireland , and what you would have paid in France, but as you guys (still ? ) nightstop quite a bit, with decent advice on what you can offset against tax - a lot - they could actually end up owing you money, so I don't think that is too much of a worry.
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CPS, there is a brand new law in france which states that if your operational base is in france, you will pay social security in france even if you work for an Irish company. The victims are: CitiJet, Ryanair and Easy...