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Old 8th Dec 2006, 22:12
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Hey, this thread is all about our new entrants. Shall we give it back to them - with our best wishes - and allow them their own paths. I will take everyone's advice, and go back to lap dancing...
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A famous military commander said, " If the troops arn't complaining, there's obviously something wrong.........." (or words to that effect)

Back to the subject of the hold pool............................................
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I will take everyone's advice, and go back to lap dancing...
Prob a hell of a lot more money than us pilots get!!!!
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Old 9th Dec 2006, 19:00
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How to apply?

I am currently flying 737NG and have seen on a few job sites that BA is currently looking for FO's with 737 or A320 ratings. Is that correct?

If so; How can you apply?

There are never any openings on www.britishairwaysjobs.com/. Is there another method of application?


Thanks
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Old 9th Dec 2006, 21:10
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Angels

Would you like to share with us the number of pilots who have left BA for other airlines.

Lets take the last 10 years shall we?

As for lap dancing, I would say about 10 BA female FO's would qualify to earn more than a bit of sympathy.

Kabaka

Welcome. I'm sure you will love it. It's not perfect by any means, but it's the best flying job in the UK by a mile.

If GE would only do herself a favour and sod off and maybe fly for a charter airline (and see how she enjoys it) then there would be more room for the likes of you.
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Old 9th Dec 2006, 21:44
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Normal Nigel.

Forgive me for being a pedant! But I have to disagree.

but it's the best flying job in the UK by a mile.
I wonder what your recent experience is of any flying other than BA?

I'm not sure any airline job could be so described!

Are you a cadet by any chance??
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Old 12th Dec 2006, 13:43
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Originally Posted by Angels One Fife
I know many a pilot who has left BA to Cathay, Emirates etc. and vice versa because the grass was/is a whole lot greener and the lifestyle choice suits them.
Really? Who? I know of one person who has gone to Emirates and he was ex-CFE and was at the bottom of the seniority list. I've not heard of anyone going to CX in the last 5 years, in fact they've been coming the other way.

GE - I don't know you, but as another P2 you sound like a right pain in the a**e. Do please go to Easyjet or Virgin or anyone else and spare us your moaning. The flood of applicants coming the other way would suggest its simply another flavour of sh*t over there.
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Old 12th Dec 2006, 21:25
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Carnage,
Ur right, I am a pain in the a****. And why should you know of me anyhow?? Just because Angels knows me? Angels is somebody who goes way back and who has seen it all before.
I dont take it very seriously. Its not a real job.. it's just what I do to pay for nail polish...but at least i dont sit naked on the flight deck waving my **** around and posting it on the internet.

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Old 12th Dec 2006, 21:55
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One went to SQ, a couple went to the sandpit and one went to a small regional op. There are very few others.

The next group of entrants onto the 737 will be around March 07.
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Old 12th Dec 2006, 23:24
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Your view of female FO's at BA is rather derogatory. What's wrong didn't mummy cuddle you enough? Were you a TEP and the girls on the course got the better pass marks? If someone doesn't like your dream job don't take the hump. Give your opinion and let the woman give hers and let everyone else make there own mind up.
Nigel on another part of this message board you say of your beloved BA "Maybe we can derail the Gravy Train once and for all for these idiots" what way do you want it? You want to ruin it for some but when some want to just vote with their feet and leave and warn it's not they expected you winge. Make your mind up or do you just dislike every viewpoint that isn't your own?

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Old 13th Dec 2006, 01:58
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Originally Posted by great expectations
I dont take it very seriously. Its not a real job.. it's just what I do to pay for nail polish...but at least i dont sit naked on the flight deck waving my **** around and posting it on the internet.
Well then perhaps the sooner you head to another company or career the better. I'm sorry if you're chosen career didn't live up to your expectations. Nonetheless if you don't like the job thats your problem, not anybody elses, so get a grip and do something about it instead of whining on here. If you really were determined to leave BA you'd know that not one of the former cadets who left have been pursued to repay their training costs as the so called 'bond' doesn't stand up in a court of law. I am assuming you've seriously researched leaving BA as opposed to just carping on about it.

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Were you a TEP and the girls on the course get better pass marks?
That would be a welcome novelty. It would make a change from BA lowering the bar repeatedly in order to avoid chopping a female. Curiously enough those particular TEPs continue to struggle when they get into BA, but what price political correctness?
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Old 13th Dec 2006, 02:30
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"Look, quite frankly, the vibe within is that if the pensions go, many of us go too."

GE

Im not going to get involved with the abuse that has been put your way (even though from some of your posts you probably deserve some of it).

But your above comment shows a huge amout of ignorance to the world outside of your BA comfort zone.

Show me an airline that pays you as much and offers such variety and has the perfect pension scheme because unless you sleep in the Compass Centre and are totally unaware of the outside world very few if any airlines left in this country offer a final salary pension scheme. So please tell me which airline you will be moving to in order to match your view of the ideal airline.
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Old 13th Dec 2006, 11:57
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"Look, quite frankly, the vibe within is that if the pensions go, many of us go too."
Without causing the thread to creep too much, this is truly the vibe. The point is not that we may or may not get a better deal elsewhere. The point is that few of us will be prepared to work for a company which has been taking us for a ride for years. Stealing the pension is the straw which will break the camel's back.

It's called a principle. Unfortunately, that isn't a word which features in the management dictionary.

Right, back to the holding pool.......
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Old 13th Dec 2006, 15:23
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Were you a TEP and the girls on the course got the better pass marks?
No and don't be ridiculous.

Nigel on another part of this message board you say of your beloved BA "Maybe we can derail the Gravy Train once and for all for these idiots" what way do you want it? You want to ruin it for some but when some want to just vote with their feet and leave and warn it's not they expected you winge.
Eventually I deciphered what you mean.

I refer to the very senior manager gravy train. Yes I do want to ruin it for them.

As for leaving the trouble is no-one does. They just stay and whinge and annoy the rest of us.

Tandem

I wonder what your recent experience is of any flying other than BA?

I'm not sure any airline job could be so described!

Are you a cadet by any chance??
Not recently, unlike you who has had the wonderful benefit of BACON.

However I have the ability to converse with other people who work for other airlines.

No
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Old 13th Dec 2006, 16:38
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Nigel,
I assume you are P1. Lets pray you're not a P1 who flies with me.

Are u talking so big to make up for smaller things????!!!!

You're a number. Thats all you are, so it doesn't matter if you're better than me at the job. The funny thing is, my licence is the same colour yours is. So, there's no difference. You don't sound like the nicest of people and Im just glad I know better and therefore won't end up like you.

Five years, and not one unstable approach or sesma event outside of training.... so, thanks go to you and those on whose behalf you speak for keeping me massively entertained with your sesma reports.. all that experience and half of you still cant manage to be stable by 500 ft.

And as to whether or not Ive researched my position, Indeed I have, however on previous occasions Ive also been threatened by management over the bond when I tried to leave.... because actually I already tried a while back, and it wasn't made easy. So Im finding my feet and my voice and this time it's all going to be on my terms.

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Old 14th Dec 2006, 11:53
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Please grow up. You sound like ranting cabin crew.

I am sure you have a perfect SESMA record, but we as pilots are only as good as our last landing.

I hope and pray you never have the misfortune of a set of unforseen circumstances that push you to the limit, but then again, you have just told us what a great pilot you are, so it won't matter, will it?
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Old 14th Dec 2006, 12:42
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Back to the thread

If its as bitchy as this, will I have to get a handbag to join BA ???

On a serious note, are there many in the holding pool and are BA likely to start recruiting again for DEPs onto either short or long-haul fleets ?

Cheers

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Old 14th Dec 2006, 13:20
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I'm pretty certain the bitching would soon come to an end were this not an anonymous forum. For those above (angels and GE), care to reveal a name behind the bravado? No i thought not.
I'm dismayed at some of the childish comments from fellow BA pilots that would be best suited to a school yard.
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Old 14th Dec 2006, 15:37
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Originally Posted by 3Greens
I'm pretty certain the bitching would soon come to an end were this not an anonymous forum. For those above (angels and GE), care to reveal a name behind the bravado? No i thought not.
I'm dismayed at some of the childish comments from fellow BA pilots that would be best suited to a school yard.
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Here I quote you"Well J.Don i hope you enjoyed your many years of flying during the "golden years" how many hours per year were you flying back then? i bet wasn't circa 900hrs as it is now. Oh and i trust you are/will be enjoying your nice big cryistalised APS pension.
Regarding you comment about ordinary workers i find that absurd and borderline offensive; i think you will find that it's the other way around. I assume that you are now retired as the present outfit is a far cry what it was in the seventies"

Man if your going to accuse folks of being bitchy don't do it yourself. This is all getting far to yadda yadda yadda boring.
As I wrote before, GE made her statement, let her have her say. No need to slag her off for it.
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Old 14th Dec 2006, 15:44
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This is SO far off topic. Time to shut it down.
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